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03-06-2011 , 02:17 PM
About 20 hands in no reads except hes a slight loser over 20k hands and has bought in for 70$. This is his 2nd 3bet the first was to 9x though. Not super interesting just wondered if anyones folding turn/river



    Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 2 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #8104332

    BB: $70.10 (70.1 bb)
    Hero (SB): $129.10 (129.1 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with T Q
    Hero raises to $3, BB raises to $7, Hero calls $4

    Flop: ($14) 7 Q 9 (2 players)
    BB bets $8.10, Hero calls $8.10

    Turn: ($30.20) J (2 players)
    BB bets $20, Hero calls $20

    River: ($70.20) 2 (2 players)
    BB bets $35 and is all-in, Hero calls $35




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    03-06-2011 , 02:21 PM
    I guess I'd raise flop to 17-19$
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    03-06-2011 , 02:32 PM
    I think calling is fine given price + combos of AK/AT in his range.
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    03-06-2011 , 02:44 PM
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    Originally Posted by Casch
    I guess I'd raise flop to 17-19$
    what does raising accomplish?
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    03-06-2011 , 02:48 PM
    Inducing spazz 3bet allin, getting value from worst hands, makeing our decisions easier on later streets, while its tough to call if some bad cards would be delt on later streets, creating aggro image so then ppl would shove lighter over min raises in 3bet pots
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    03-06-2011 , 03:41 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by weeee7
    what does raising accomplish?
    stop him from hitting A-k etc outs?
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    03-06-2011 , 05:09 PM
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    Inducing spazz 3bet allin, getting value from worst hands, makeing our decisions easier on later streets, while its tough to call if some bad cards would be delt on later streets, creating aggro image so then ppl would shove lighter over min raises in 3bet pots
    Makes sense, although I still prefer OP's line, obviously it puts us into tougher spots sometimes, I just think it's more profitable. If you have any kind of read that he might be spazzy, raising seems to be a better play.

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    stop him from hitting A-k etc outs?
    Is this a level?
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    03-07-2011 , 07:31 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Casch
    Inducing spazz 3bet allin, getting value from worst hands, makeing our decisions easier on later streets, while its tough to call if some bad cards would be delt on later streets, creating aggro image so then ppl would shove lighter over min raises in 3bet pots
    Mm i see what your saying but i think its better to flat. sure you might induce 3bet from draw/overs, but flatting still lets him bluff. So we are essentially "inducing" him to bluff by flatting the flop.

    i probably play it the same op. id love to fold river given how strong his line is, but the price is ridiculous.

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    Originally Posted by WhoAreYou
    stop him from hitting A-k etc outs?
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    03-07-2011 , 12:08 PM
    standard
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    03-07-2011 , 01:27 PM
    if it is a reg and we are 100bb deep I guess raising flop to induce spazz and building an image is ok. But against such a player I go for the straightforward play and call him down.
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    03-07-2011 , 01:34 PM
    flat.
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    03-07-2011 , 01:40 PM
    raise flop or calling down are both fine
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    03-07-2011 , 03:58 PM
    I play more FR than HU so I generally have MUBS when it comes to HU play. That said, my first thought looking at this HH is to jam turn or fold river. Where do I go wrong with this line of thought?
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    03-07-2011 , 04:02 PM
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    Originally Posted by TheLusty
    I play more FR than HU so I generally have MUBS when it comes to HU play. That said, my first thought looking at this HH is to jam turn or fold river. Where do I go wrong with this line of thought?
    I think calling flop and jamming turn is a fine line
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    03-07-2011 , 04:21 PM
    calling turn > jam
    esp. with our hand
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    03-08-2011 , 06:55 AM
    jam turn
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    03-08-2011 , 07:01 AM
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    Originally Posted by BreakYaNeck
    I think calling flop and jamming turn is a fine line
    this

    though calling is fine as long as your willing to call it off on almost any river
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    03-08-2011 , 07:21 AM
    You played this well - unfortunately how the board came off, you really can't get away from it.
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    03-08-2011 , 08:41 AM
    You line is fine. Personally I'd call flop en jam turn.
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    03-08-2011 , 10:20 PM
    i jam turn as well but I'm not exactly sure why, I just feel its the right play:
    too many action killing cards for our hand OTR, if we make our hand hes going to fold alot to river jams since it puts too many 2p/str in our range

    problem is though: anything thats calling we are actually behind (e.g. AA, KK, AQ) in a vaccuum - how is this the correct play? in my head its just the standard line as drilled by the 2p2 community but i can't really make sense of it?
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    03-08-2011 , 10:28 PM
    I like it. And I like jamming turn also but i play it the Same.
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