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100NL: AA river str8, thin value? 100NL: AA river str8, thin value?

04-14-2011 , 09:39 AM
No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) - Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button ($67.40)
SB ($103.10)
BB ($101.50) - 18/10 over 130hands
UTG ($119.60)
UTG+1 ($101.95)
MP1 ($101.50)
Hero (MP2) ($103)
CO ($107.25)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A, A
3 folds, Hero bets $3.50, 3 folds, BB calls $2.50 - His range is PP's suited broadways and myb some lower SC's

Flop: ($7.50) 10, 2, 5 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $4, BB calls $4 - I ment to CBet 5$ little misclick there but it doesn't matter that much.

Turn: ($15.50) 4 (2 players)
BB bets $9, Hero calls $9 - Doesn't make much sense to lead out here, It might be a set afraid of the FD? I think a set would bet bigger here or go for a CR but who knows.

River: ($33.50) 3 (2 players)
BB bets $16 - So I have a str8 now and the guy most probably has a set or a missed draw. Do you think there is space for a minraise here? Or is it too thin? I think he might call a minraise with a set, but I don't know he played the hand so wierd.
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04-14-2011 , 09:49 AM
If you don't know what his range is here then just call.
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04-14-2011 , 10:41 AM
Well his range is gonna bet sets/small overpairs/Tx occasionally. I can't see any reason why you wouldn't raise. I can't see a single 6x hand in his range.
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04-14-2011 , 11:15 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by robinfromthehood
Well his range is gonna bet sets/small overpairs/Tx occasionally. I can't see any reason why you wouldn't raise. I can't see a single 6x hand in his range.
6s7s maybe or a wierdly played 66 but yeah IMO there is room for a value raise here.

River: ($33.50) 3 (2 players)
BB bets $16, Hero raises to $32, BB raises to $48

Have to call with my odds, could be a super wierd bluff or even a value raise from like TT.
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04-14-2011 , 11:18 AM
As long as when you raise, you're willing to call a shove.

I don't think I would min-raise river unless you think he will think that you are capable of doing this without a straight as min-raises scream nuts only.

My size would be like 39-49$.
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04-14-2011 , 12:20 PM
He's not betting that river without at least a split unless you have some sick read on him. His range given river bet is something like AT/67/66 and a very very low chance of TT. Once he 3balls river you know you're toast or splitting but I can't really find a fold.
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04-14-2011 , 01:41 PM
IDK, an ace is the single most likely card for you to be holding. How is any worse hand calling a river raise of any size? I get that there aren't many 6's in his range, but his line doesn't look like a set. Even if it is, I think even a drooler can connect the dots to put you on a straight.
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04-14-2011 , 03:23 PM
Thing is people are gonna bet the river for a 1/2psb so so much with sets here, as a kinda value-blocker. They won't even really consider what they are getting called by, they will just **** their pants. I like a CiB but yeah once he min3b it is pretty ugly, though I'd guess you are almost always chopping.

6s7s is the only 6x hand I can see him having. We have the A.
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04-14-2011 , 06:07 PM
Lets go back to basic reason why we bet (or in this case, raise)

1. Value (get worse to call)
2. Bluff (get better to fold)
3. Collect Dead money (get worse to fold)
4. Meta/making further streets easier

So, why are you raising?

4. There aren't anymore streets
3. Don't need to raise to collect dead money
2. He's not folding a 6 ever.
1. Do you think a set is going to call a river raise?

Raising here makes 0 sense, nothing worse will call you only better, and you've got zero fold equity vs better hands. It's quite possible that he blocking bet river with a set, hell most of us would do the same with TT in villain's spot, but what do we get out of raising villain? We get the opportunity to lose more money and nothing else.

Call > Fold >>>> Raise
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04-14-2011 , 06:27 PM
I'm just calling. I'm not fist pumping rivering the bottom end of a straight. Definitely not raising. Villain's stats don't indicate he's some maniac willing to shove with two pair/sets on 4 to a straight board.
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