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10-14-2010 , 05:57 PM
Villain is a standard reg, not too aggro, no dynamic, folding to 3bets > 60%

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $1(BB) Replayer
Hero ($100)
($100)

Dealt to Hero Q 8

raises to $3, Hero raises to $10, calls $7

FLOP ($20) K 2 8

[color=red]Hero ???

1) Bet or check and why?
2) What do you do on a blank turn?
3) Is your answer any different with QQ?

Last edited by ObsidianOrder; 10-14-2010 at 06:15 PM.
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10-14-2010 , 06:52 PM
check call flop all 1-3, check-clling one more street and folding to river bets
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10-15-2010 , 02:45 AM
Having a check call flop range that calls two and folds riv can't be good?
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10-15-2010 , 03:21 AM
I bet flop for value.
c/c blank turn in cause he is floating.
By the river our hand is face up so I will c/f if I think it's unlickely he will try to bluff me off second pair.
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10-15-2010 , 03:41 AM
I cbet this flop and check blank turns to him.
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10-15-2010 , 04:40 AM
And I think Q8 is better then QQ here cause I would expect reg to 4bet 99+ and Q8 has more outs against Kx
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10-15-2010 , 04:53 AM
If we are betting flop for value, check/calling to induce bluffs and check/folding river with both Q8 and QQ here (assume 2nd pair on riv) then we obv need to have a check/call river range. People play K3 this way? Thing is I'm bet bet betting any TP OOP on wet board. So what gets to river that we can c/c for us to not be exploitable?
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10-15-2010 , 05:02 AM
With K3 you can bet, bet and c/c river to let him bluff with missed draws.
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10-15-2010 , 05:31 AM
^ True but what hand goes bet, c/c, c/c on K high fd?
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