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100bb deep with aces versus JeffBoston 100bb deep with aces versus JeffBoston

04-21-2008 , 03:48 PM
3/6. Lyric opens 18 UTG, I make it 62 UTG+1 with red aces, JeffBoston, a known nit, smoothcalls in the BB. Flop comes JcTc2c, and he insta CR jams. I imagine he's dumb enough to have JJ here. What else is in his range? Is AcKo? KcK or QcQ? Red kings? TT?

Call black aces, I assume. Fold red ones? What about black kings or black queens?
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04-21-2008 , 03:59 PM
check back flop. all he's c/fing with are red (nonclub) hands that you don't care about giving an extra card. rest is c/ring. i think you have to call now, he could have QQ or something.
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04-21-2008 , 04:00 PM
I'd start thinking about checking back with KK and no FD
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04-21-2008 , 04:01 PM
I call with black aces, fold without the Ac. I fold KK/QQ for sure though because he has a lot of equity with hands like AcJx, AcQx etc vs KK/QQ.

I think his range is largely JT/TT/JJ/KQ/NFD and combo draws here.

edit: But, I'd check back this flop a lot unless I'm willing to call it off.
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04-21-2008 , 04:13 PM
Fold pf if you know this villian is gonna cold call 3, you're drawing dead to a split....

oh yeah, and check back flop
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04-21-2008 , 04:16 PM
Check the flop

as played I fold.
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04-21-2008 , 04:24 PM
I always seem to make the wrong decision with checking back. Like, I checked back black AK 150deep on a AdQd3d flop last night in a 4-bet pot, and obviously the turn was a diamond and obviously he had red tens (no money went in post-flop). Here I bet, time banked to 5 secs, prayed for a coinflip versus black QQ/KK, and donated a stack to JJ. (Nice preflop Jeff, so you set mine 22 OOP against UTG+1 re-raises also?)
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04-21-2008 , 04:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ddubois
I always seem to make the wrong decision with checking back. Like, I checked back black AK 150deep on a AdQd3d flop last night in a 4-bet pot, and obviously the turn was a diamond and obviously he had red tens (no money went in post-flop). Here I bet, time banked to 5 secs, prayed for a coinflip versus black QQ/KK, and donated a stack to JJ. (Nice preflop Jeff, so you set mine 22 OOP against UTG+1 re-raises also?)
He needs 11/1 to set mine, right, he's playing against two opponents, both 100BB+ deep. It looks like he has the implied odds, or close enough, even if UTG doesn't call, especially if he thinks you can't fold your AA/KK to Jxx flop. Right? You should have raised a bit more preflop, maybe to $78 or so, hoping to get called by UTG.
In any case, that's not the kind of flop that you want for going all-in with red AA, unless it's a special tournament situation.
Edit: Given other's comments about Jeff, it's an easy fold.

Last edited by romantwo; 04-21-2008 at 04:54 PM.
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04-21-2008 , 04:50 PM
you're behind his range on the flop, check and fold to any bets from him.
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04-21-2008 , 04:52 PM
if JeffBoston puts money in the pot cringe then proceed to c/f any hands but the nuts and expect to split when you do have the nuts imo
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04-21-2008 , 04:54 PM
check flop
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