Read on villain = Tag range but does not fold to 3 bets at all + Overtly aggressive and spazzy. He did some v spazzy shizz such as shove JJ from BB to my open bet with 99 and also shoved AA from BB in a non 3 bet pot when flop came 956 and I and c bet flop. In short...He was playing a somehwat TAG style but spazzing out here and there.

I don't post hands often and realize to some...This is a "black and white" spot but not so much to others.

So the hand is a standard 3 bet pot where I flop Top pair Good kicker - C bet and get 3 bet...How do we proceed here?

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Hero (BB): $210.00
BTN/SB: $252.10

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with K J
BTN/SB raises to $3, Hero raises to $12, BTN/SB calls $9

Flop: ($24.00) 7 2 K (2 players)
Hero bets $18, BTN/SB raises to $42

Hero ???

i would prob call and re-evaluate turn as we are never getting it in against worse on the flop but ARGH these spots make me puke can a player better than myself plz post some thoughts? ty

edit: does KQ=KJ in this spot? and how about AK?

reraise is spew, fold is no option either. i mean he isn't repping to much. does he 4bet AK pre? would he call KQ on the flop? if the answer to both is yes he basically only reps 22,77.

sets are hard to make and u described him as overaggro/spazzy so probably call him down.

Every option other than calling sucks major ass imo.

seems to me like the perfect board to bluff raise, with only one overcard to your pair.

I woul call down.

always flat call, tougher decisions come later and are extremely read dependent so there's not much we can do to help there.

I would argue that when u call the flop u are stacking off on nearly any turn I can think of.

If the general consensus is to flat on flop - What do we do if the turn is a "brick"? What do we do if the turn is a H giving us TP + FD...And in both those situations villain leads for aprox 3/4 of pot ?

Keep in mind as I already mentioned that he has called all my 3 bets and I 3 bet him about 20%-22% in this match which we were 100-120 hands into - so his range can be v wide here including the nutz / Kx / PPs / air.

What is now our turn plan given the situations I mention above.

This is a trivially easy call on flop and c/c turn/river.

callllllllllling all the bets

Call is definetely the most standard play but I think raising doesn't have to be a spew with the right dynamic. If you call you have defined you're range as not a bluff on the flop. So if he recognises that you have top pair a lot when you call its not too likely he will try and barrell you off it. On the other hand if you raise it looks like you are full of **** and if he was bluffing in the first instance you give him the opportunity to shove ace 2 or whatever (believe me this does happen). I'm not saying this is the right play in this situation but against the right player who you feel is on this level it can be a really good play to mix things up with in my experience. If he shows up with k7 or whatever you can console yourself with the fact that you were probably calling down anyway.

Completely agree. Also, what is your C bet % in 3 bet pots, if you're constantly pounding in 3 bet pots this is an awesome board for him to bluff air. Then when you call he could shove turn trying to get hands like 66,88,99,TT to fold etc. I would call flop, check turn and if he checks turn, check river also. A big chunk of his range is air, he may try to bluff river, plus he's going to value bet all kings so I don't think you lose much value on river.

Does the bold make any sense or is checking to river a bad play?

i agree with calling him down all th way. Dont see any other viable options

I think you are right. I definitely think c/c c/c is the optimal line.

So we are check calling all the way for value ? IE to not fold out his bluffs? Or we are check calling because playing for stacks on this flop 200 bb deep is spew? Are we seeing if we can improve?

I don't love getting it in on this flop but I don't think it's always awful as he is calling 3 bets with weaker kings and has shown a propensity to do some spazzy shizz. Also if we call a turn bet I can't see ever folding any river.

Why precisely are we check calling all the way?

Just call him down this deep, raising is bad.
If he´s c/r like K3 in this spot it can´t be bad to click it back though
but in general i like calling more because this is air so often.

Because if you're 3 betting the flop this deep you've basically turned your hand into a bluff and the only thing you can beat is a bluff. If we get it in on the flop his range is basically KQ,AK,K7,K2,KK,22,77 on that board and a very small range of 4 bet bluffs. Whereas if we c/c c/c there's way more bluffs in his range than getting it in on the flop.

o yea definitely check the river if he checks back turn except maybe if like 2 middle cards come and he's stupid enough to call a bet with like Q9o if a Q rivers.

If we just call he can obv still have KQ,AK,K7,K2,KK,22,77...And if he bets turn and we call I can't see folding river. I understand that on flop if we shove we are only getting called by better unless he is a total spazz but he can still have it if we choose to call down and river pot will be for all the chips unless it goes check check.

Do we ever fold after calling flop 3 bet?

If I'm getting what most of you are saying it's go broke on the river no matter what but don't get it in on flop.