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100 husng - turning sd value into a bluff- fps? 100 husng - turning sd value into a bluff- fps?

02-25-2010 , 09:02 PM
alright i usually dont like to do this (and its usually bad when people post hands like this so hopefully i can be an exception ), but i thought stacks worked out well cause i dont think hed think im bluffing. villian is kind of a new face at the 100s, i dont think he'll stick, but hes trying to play winning poker and game select so hes at least thinking a little bit. reads are is that hes a little bit nitty, standard below average abc i guess. i think his sizing is pretty clear that he has me beat so a call is terrible i think. i think i can push him off a weak king just based on sizing but im not certain. i also see him having a7 a bit. i think he can also play pairs between 7 and k like this. also, i dont think hes ever betting small to induce, hes not clever in his lines. they mean what they look like ftmp.


Full Tilt Poker $100 + $5 Heads Up No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t15/t30 Blinds - 2 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (BB): t1860 M = 41.33
BTN/SB: t1140 M = 25.33

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is BB with 7 Q
BTN/SB raises to t60, Hero calls t30

Flop: (t120) K 6 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t90, Hero calls t90

Turn: (t300) T (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t120, Hero calls t120

River: (t540) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t210, Hero raises to t1590 all in, BTN/SB requests TIME, BTN/SB...
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02-25-2010 , 09:07 PM
first instinct is that you hate this guy
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02-25-2010 , 09:08 PM
If i was this guy i don't see this line as strong. Never (not on this board)

But again i'm not playing your stakes, dynamics there have to be different.

Instead if i were you i would raise river, strong, (but not that kind of overbet), he hasn't been too aggresive so far, and he bets small, i Dont see a top pair top kicker playing this way, your bluff will work lots of times if he's playing abc poker.

But interesting hand nevertheless.
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02-25-2010 , 09:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SoulAndBone
If i was this guy i don't see this line as strong. Never (not on this board).
yeah im only doing this because i dont think hes an awesome hand reader, would never really do this vs a good reg cause i dont think theyre folding any k ever but eh. (esp vs me cause im super super bad spewy.)

also, pd, i dont hate him, i dont really know him at all. its true i hate everyone right now though, (boo downswing)
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02-25-2010 , 09:24 PM
fold pre

c/f river
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02-25-2010 , 09:49 PM
Hero is not repping much on river, at least not enought hands to make a TP type lay down.
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02-25-2010 , 09:52 PM
Joe, you're really repping thin. Even if you've got this guy's mindset and sizing tells figured out, I'd prefer your move, if make it you must, when the river's a spade or like a 9. Give him a more visible threat to worry about -- you want him thinking "Dammit, the flush got there!" and not "What the hell can he have? Let me think about it."

He needs only pause for a bit and consider the sorts of hands your actions represent that beat his 7x/88-QQ/discounted Kx/misc. on this particular river to realize that very few of them make sense given your total line -- and then he sees missed spades on top of that! And maybe even realizes that his bet of less than 1/2 pot 'looks weak-ish.'
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02-25-2010 , 11:37 PM
It depends how logical/ballsy you think he is. I think really, his turn bet is too small for you to expect him to bet river a big %, so I don't think it's a particularly convincing play for value. That won't stop some people from laying down 100% of their range here, though.
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02-25-2010 , 11:47 PM
I would fold pre.

As played, hero's line doesn't look very strong, and doesn't rep much. Given the range we've put him on, I don't see him folding here.
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02-26-2010 , 06:37 AM
Don't like it tbh. Don't think he will bet A7 on river much if he is any decent at hand reading,since T8/T9/T6 is a decent part of your range. Also he might fold bad K ,just because he is a nit that doesn't see that K3=AK here,but might not fold some good K's especially that the flush draw missed.
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02-26-2010 , 09:54 AM
If I was villain, I'd think all you're repping is a low two pair that got there after c/c-ing turn and river. Its a tough sell, but ime it works a lot of the time against unthinking players. If he has a weak king I see him giving it up almost blindly a lot of the time. To reformulate, I agree that you're not repping a whole lot, but I disagree that this line rarely works (against just a pair of kings) in this spot against an sub par abc reg.
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