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100 husng: calling shove with A high... 100 husng: calling shove with A high...

07-01-2009 , 01:49 PM
Boss Media, $10/20 No Limit Holdem Tournament, 2 Players
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Board:
Button: $1,840
CO: $2,160

Dealt to CO T A

Pre-flop:
Button raises to $30, CO calls $20

Flop: ($80) 6 6 5 (2 Players)
CO checks, Button bets $80, CO calls $80

Turn: ($240) K (2 Players)
CO checks, Button bets $240, CO calls $240

River: ($720) K (2 Players)
CO checks, Button all-in $1,480, CO calls $1,480

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(please note starting chips are 2000).

he's a new player, just 10 games or so on sharkscope, negat. roi.
no reads, very early into the game.
he disconnected for a few minutes and lost a few chips, that's the reason of my chip lead.

i figured he would never shove a 6 or a 5 on that board.
also a K is in my range because of my flop call.

and i think if he had a good K he would check flop a decent amount.

and that turn bet doesn't convince me at all, i don't think neither a 6 or a K would bet so big to get value. the 6 pushing off most worse hands, the K getting called only by better hands...

would you call here? could he ever shove without a K?
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07-01-2009 , 08:07 PM
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no reads, very early into the game.
This + stack depth + bad player we can crush in much clearer spots + god knows if he thinks he's turning 88 into a bluff = fold turn. And I wouldn't blame you if you folded flop.

I think there is some merit to using his sharkscope stats to deduce things about him, but not to the point of calling turn and river this early without in-game reads. What I feel safer concluding from his sharkscope stats is that I should 3-bet ATs pf, and assume he'll come along with many worse and dominated hands.
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07-01-2009 , 08:27 PM
i LOL'd
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07-01-2009 , 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by TakeHerOnACruise
i LOL'd
niiiiiiiiiceeeeee
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07-01-2009 , 08:37 PM
I've played donks that would shove that flop with A6. Why even take the chance in this spot?
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07-01-2009 , 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by lagdonk

I think there is some merit to using his sharkscope stats to deduce things about him, but not to the point of calling turn and river this early without in-game reads. What I feel safer concluding from his sharkscope stats is that I should 3-bet ATs pf, and assume he'll come along with many worse and dominated hands.
i didn't say i used sharkscope, i meant that i can't use sharkscope because he's a new player (he had played only 10 games).
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07-01-2009 , 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by electricladylnd
I've played donks that would shove that flop with A6. Why even take the chance in this spot?
i was confident he didn't have a K because of his turn bet sizing.
and it wouldn't make sense for him to shove a 6 on the river.

but you're exactly right, A6.

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ty cruise and nathan.
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07-01-2009 , 08:51 PM
sorry bud lol im drunk


but yeah erm i really really hate saying this but wait for a better spot

hahah cant believe i said it


actualy i dont mind it his rang is polarized so i dont hate a call, if you think you geting a rematch no matter what i would lean on the side of call

and also i see alot of people spazz out like this but then never again in the whole match
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07-01-2009 , 09:30 PM
rematch logic not even joking
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07-01-2009 , 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by nathan
actualy i dont mind it his rang is polarized so i dont hate a call, if you think you geting a rematch no matter what i would lean on the side of call
+1, My thoughts exactly- but, check this hand out:

I SS villain, who sits me @ 50, and he has very solid shark stats over ~1.5k hands, 24%ROI or something.

I know that my stats are in the negatives atm on FT, as it's not my regular site and I've only played around 50 games on my stake there.

I DOUBT villain is leveling you here OBV, but your HH reminded me of this so I had to share:

(1st hand)
Using what I knew villain MOST LIKELY knew about me as a player, and knowing he would see my range as super polarized by the river in this spot (and understanding his range is obv waited towards J's and weakish Q's, maybe A high), I further polarized my range by overbet shoving

Full Tilt Poker, $10/20 Hold'em Tournament, 2 Players
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Board:
BB: $1,500
Button: $1,500

Dealt to Button K 4

Pre-flop:
Button raises to $50, BB calls $30

Flop: ($110) 4 Q J (2 Players)
BB checks, Button bets $65, BB calls $65

Turn: ($240) 4 (2 Players)
BB checks, Button bets $200, BB calls $200

River: ($640) 8 (2 Players)
BB checks, Button bets $1,185 and is all-in, BB calls $1,185 and is all-in

Results:
Button Showed K 4
BB Mucks Q 9
Button wins $3,000

Sorry if it's a complete derail, btw..
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