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10 NL, QQ in 3-bet pot 10 NL, QQ in 3-bet pot

10-26-2009 , 05:02 PM
Didn't have any reads on villain.

I don't know what to think about this hand.
I thought easy fold for a while due to stacksizes and the massive strenght he showed.
Then I though easy call due to pot odds and suspeciously much strenght.

Thoughts?



Full Tilt Poker $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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BTN: $10.00
SB: $14.02
BB: $18.09
Hero (UTG): $16.78
MP: $9.40
CO: $12.57

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is UTG with Q Q
Hero raises to $0.30, 4 folds, BB raises to $0.95, Hero calls $0.65

Flop: ($1.95) J J 7 (2 players)
BB bets $1.50, Hero raises to $4, BB requests TIME, BB raises to $17.14 all in, Hero requests TIME, Hero folds
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10-26-2009 , 05:44 PM
I fold without a pretty strong read.
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10-26-2009 , 05:48 PM
I think you can get it in profitably 4betting at nl10? I could be wrong I never put a substantial amount of hands in there.
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10-26-2009 , 06:07 PM
ive seen this all-in play with underpairs, or a flush draw 100BB deep, but this deep I dont know, he probably had AA or KK.. and your SPR is mediocre for an overpair, so IMO good fold.

I would just call on the flop and see what happen on the turn. He might even think you have trips jacks if you just call, reraising is a bit weak
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10-26-2009 , 06:21 PM
Fold vs. unkown this deep. I might even consider just flatting his flop bet to see how he continues. 10NL usually slow down on the turn if they whiffed AK/AQ, and that way we wouldn't have to raise/fold. If we're raise/folding, I suggest doing it pre. We'll get calls from AK/AQs/TT/JJ and usually 5bet by KK+, so that would be a cheaper fold that also gives us a little more info about his range.

It's a pretty tough spot all in all. His flop 3bet has you beat 90% of the time though, so good fold.
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10-26-2009 , 06:43 PM
i dont like the flop play im only raising this flop if im looking to get it in here. I think id just call down
vs an unknown
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10-27-2009 , 11:40 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by deadcat3x
i dont like the flop play im only raising this flop if im looking to get it in here. I think id just call down
vs an unknown
If I decide to call down and he is willing to get it in, I'll most likely end up allin on the river anyway I think.


So I may conclude that the optimal line would have been either
a) reraise Pf with the intention to fold to an allin or - in case I'm called - try to get it in on a safe flop? (like this one)

b) Call the flop and re-evaluate turn?
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