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01-19-2010 , 09:27 AM
Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.10(BB) Replayer
Hero ($12.30)
BB ($13.60)
UTG ($11.80)
CO ($9.30)
Tick___‚_ockman ($10.15)

Dealt to Hero J J

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.40, BB calls $0.30

FLOP ($0.80) 3 5 8

Hero bets $0.60, BB calls $0.60

TURN ($2) 3 5 8 8

Hero bets $1, BB calls $1

RIVER ($4) 3 5 8 8 2

Hero checks, BB bets $1.20, Hero?

Villain is 43/12/2(95)
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01-19-2010 , 09:29 AM
I'd probably jack it up for value, it's at least a call.
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01-19-2010 , 09:34 AM
I think his range here is monsters and bluffs and the size of his bet looks to me more like trying to bye the pot cheap. Do you think the turn bet is wrong?
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01-19-2010 , 09:36 AM
Bet more on turn.

I would lead river, but as played we are at least calling. I think that just calling is too cheap for our hand. I raise to 4ish and fold to a shove.
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01-19-2010 , 09:38 AM
betting the turn is good imo. bet-sizing looks good too, around half pot.

i think he shows up with like 66 or some random pair along with 8x or some terribly played full house. i think it's a call at least as played

that being said i'd probably bet the river small against most opponents. it blocks some bluffs and gets value from worse. if you're raised you can safely fold. i don't mind checking if villain is overly-aggressive with moderate-weak holdings.
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01-19-2010 , 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by evgeni_g
I think his range here is monsters and bluffs and the size of his bet looks to me more like trying to bye the pot cheap. Do you think the turn bet is wrong?
He might also valuebet TT ot 99. I'd call or raise/fold smallish, probably call once I decided to check the river.
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01-19-2010 , 09:41 AM
I think the bets were fine, maybe a little bit more on the turn but not much. I may also lead on the river as you'd get calls from worse hands here.
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01-19-2010 , 09:51 AM
I checked his AFq on the river and it was 53%(17) so maybe c/c the river is not bad?
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01-19-2010 , 10:04 AM
raise on the river is not an option. we could do this with our very very bottom range of our range here as we just want to bluff him off

bet more on the turn and value bet the river. he´s more likely to have 99/TT or 77 or even A5 most of the time. sure he will show up with A8 or something sometimes
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01-19-2010 , 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by eNots
raise on the river is not an option.
Against a decent opponent you would be correct. But then the whole hand would be different. Against this type of villain, I have started consistently raise/folding in spots like this and have been very surprised at how often I am payed off with weak hands. I am even kinda nitty and they still pay me off. I definitely think that raising is a good option. Calling might very well be best but dismissing the option of raising entirely is a mistake.
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01-19-2010 , 11:43 AM
I don;t know why the raise is not an option here.
I personally wouldn't do it but I think there is merit in it on most occasions.
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