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04-05-2010 , 08:37 AM
Villain is winning tag regular. Defend half his big blinds and is quite agressive. I have only Cbet once so far and he folded.

So bascally I thought the king was a good bluff card for me. Correct me if wrong please. And when he just flats again he don't feel that strong and the ace shouldnt make much of his range stronger so I shove.?

Is this any good?


Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $40(BB) Replayer
($1,640)
Hero ($1,360)

Dealt to Hero 3 Q

Hero raises to $100, calls $60

FLOP ($200) 2 9 T

checks, Hero bets $140, calls $140

TURN ($480) 2 9 T K

checks, Hero bets $260, calls $260

RIVER ($1,000) 2 9 T K A

checks, Hero bets $860 (AI),
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04-05-2010 , 08:52 AM
looks good
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04-05-2010 , 11:11 AM
I'm fine with it, betting a little more on the turn because your river range looks a bit polarized. But that's really a small point, it's fine.
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04-05-2010 , 11:15 AM
i like it- can't really ask for a better turn and river to barrel off here
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04-05-2010 , 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by turbulence-flow
i like it- can't really ask for a better turn and river to barrel off here
Which do you like better here on the turn - Kx or Ax?
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04-05-2010 , 11:49 AM
you're repping QJ, AK, some 2pairs+..., but given the fact that your opening and cbetting range is ultra wide, and these are such obviouuuuuuus cards to bluff and he's a thinking winning player
i don't like it
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04-05-2010 , 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by badboyboogie0
you're repping QJ, AK, some 2pairs+..., but given the fact that your opening and cbetting range is ultra wide, and these are such obviouuuuuuus cards to bluff and he's a thinking winning player
i don't like it
lol @ 10$ tag reg being on the level of thinking we're bluffing these cards. And we can still rep Kx, Ax, and any 2p
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04-05-2010 , 04:16 PM
didn't watch stake level. doesn't matter that much, i still don't like it.
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04-05-2010 , 04:24 PM
I think this bluff against thinking players and non-thinking players.
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04-05-2010 , 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by nicecatch08
I think this bluff against thinking players and non-thinking players.
Hmm?

On the other hand... the story youre telling is not very believable. On the turn you are saying I'm repping the K, then on the river you are saying you are repping AK?

Not to mention those cards you are repping hits a lot of his range as well.

Lets face it... even if hes a winning player at $10 he still prob has many leaks, the main one from players that low is calling too much.

I dont love the bluff, it's not needed to beat $10 games.
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04-05-2010 , 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by BarryLyndon
Which do you like better here on the turn - Kx or Ax?
I think it's pretty close given the straights/ straight draws with the K but villain is more likely to float Ax so not too sure anyone want to weigh in on this?
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04-05-2010 , 07:55 PM
How is hero repping K, A here? He bets flop strong and turn weak and shoves river. Your like repping the entire board. I'm not saying you wont get some $10 players to fold but this line just looks freaking weird. To me this looks like QJ only and thats a pretty thin range.

But basically you bluffed a pretty strong board against a winning tag who is now all of a sudden passive. Why do I feel like he slow played you?
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04-05-2010 , 07:57 PM
nh
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04-05-2010 , 08:05 PM
c-bet less
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04-05-2010 , 08:45 PM
What hand(s) did you put villain on? What hand(s) do you think villain put you on?

Last edited by bringmywholeclan; 04-05-2010 at 09:02 PM.
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04-05-2010 , 09:15 PM
Its good but there are some better board combinations to make this bluff.
Its the kind of board though where 2 barrelling would be terrible but 3 barrelling is good depending on opponent.
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04-05-2010 , 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by turbulence-flow
I think it's pretty close given the straights/ straight draws with the K but villain is more likely to float Ax so not too sure anyone want to weigh in on this?
Ace will be quite alot better imo as long as we haven't shown a propensity to check back A high in position.
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04-05-2010 , 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by bringmywholeclan
What hand(s) did you put villain on? What hand(s) do you think villain put you on?
After he calls the flop I put him on 98+ , T8+, J8, some QJ (less likely since I block one Q ). He could ofc have hit 2pair on the turn but more often he will miss. And I suspect he always call my turnbet with TX and some times with 9X and 9J, or if he picked up a FD + pair/draw. Suppose he floats a bit with KQ/KJ too...(but aint that concerning since he would prolly fold that if he dont improve to a river shove anyways. I would )

And then when he flats turn I take out 2pair and QJ from his range unless he hit the A for the most part since I think he would have raised the turn with that. So I shove in a strong belief he will fold almost all his one-pairhands.

As for my range. It may be a bit to shallow? But it certainly contains 9T, K9, KT, AK, QJ and quite often AT too.

What I do regret is not betting alittle bigger on turn since that is prolly what I would have done with my made hands thinking back about it.

Last edited by Mendal; 04-05-2010 at 11:20 PM.
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04-05-2010 , 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by unidentity
How is hero repping K, A here? He bets flop strong and turn weak and shoves river. Your like repping the entire board. I'm not saying you wont get some $10 players to fold but this line just looks freaking weird. To me this looks like QJ only and thats a pretty thin range.

But basically you bluffed a pretty strong board against a winning tag who is now all of a sudden passive. Why do I feel like he slow played you?
Was that in response to my post?
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04-06-2010 , 12:39 AM
to people saying this is a bad spot:
I really doubt that at the $10 stakes there are players thinking on a higher level and recognizing these are "good" bluffing cards. Decent winning TAG players at the $10 level are the EXACT type of player we want to target with this bluff. They are thinking one level below you and cannot call three barrels with Tx or 9x because we CAN rep Kx, Ax, and turned and rivered two pair hands. I do agree, however, that the bet sizing could have been better/ more believable. Regardless, if you are not triple barreling this against this type of opponent you are burning money imo. No, you don't need this in your arsenal to beat the 10 dollar stakes but you aren't going to stay at these stakes forever and recognizing an advantage in thinking and exploiting it is a huge key to beating TAGish regs.
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