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10 8o, dry board top pair against BU open. Got re raised at river, should I shove?

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05-28-2018 , 05:31 PM

magicfengqi

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Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD Poker Tracking Software

NL Holdem $0.10(BB)
HJ ($16.38) [VPIP: 18.2% | PFR: 9.1% | AGG: 28.6% | 3-Bet: 0% | Hands: 33]
CO ($9.65) [VPIP: 35.9% | PFR: 17.9% | AGG: 16.7% | 3-Bet: 0% | Hands: 40]
BTN ($18.29) [VPIP: 25% | PFR: 15% | AGG: 38.9% | 3-Bet: 6.3% | Hands: 40]
SB ($3.65) [VPIP: 50% | PFR: 31.3% | AGG: 54.5% | 3-Bet: 11.1% | Hands: 16]
HERO ($9.88) [VPIP: 35.4% | PFR: 25.5% | AGG: 38.7% | 3-Bet: 8.1% | Hands: 2785]
UTG ($10) [VPIP: 23.3% | PFR: 16.7% | AGG: 42.9% | 3-Bet: 20% | Hands: 30]

Dealt to Hero: T

UTG Folds, HJ Folds, CO Folds, BTN Raises To $0.30, SB Folds, HERO Calls $0.20

Hero SPR on Flop: [14.74 effective]
Flop ($0.65): 7

HERO Checks, BTN Checks

Turn ($0.65): 7

HERO Bets $0.32 (Rem. Stack: 9.26), BTN Calls $0.32 (Rem. Stack: 17.67)

River ($1.29): 7

HERO Bets $1 (Rem. Stack: 8.26), BTN Raises To $4.32 (Rem. Stack: 13.35), HERO Raises To $9.26 (allin), BTN Calls $4.94 (Rem. Stack: 8.41)

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05-28-2018 , 05:35 PM

RoyalRumble

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looks like you jammed river?
not sure what you are hoping to achive there. Fold AT? Get called by 99/A7?

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05-28-2018 , 05:48 PM

magicfengqi

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Originally Posted by RoyalRumble

looks like you jammed river?
not sure what you are hoping to achive there. Fold AT? Get called by 99/A7?

I assumed I was ahead against a wide range for villain's BTN open. I'm ahead against any AJ+, A2 to A9 etc. I can only be beaten by 77, 44, any 2, or JJ+. My 10 blocked other 10s.

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05-28-2018 , 06:03 PM

Highspirit1978

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I would of check called the river lightly and folded to a big bet such as an all-in, unless i know hes cabable of jamming all-in with nothing, even then i'd probably fold

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05-28-2018 , 06:08 PM

magicfengqi

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Originally Posted by Highspirit1978

I would of check called the river lightly and folded to a big bet such as an all-in, unless i know hes cabable of jamming all-in with nothing, even then i'd probably fold

Can you elaborate?

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05-28-2018 , 06:14 PM

emitnulB

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You should x/c river. That river was a total brick and there's like no worse 10's for you to get value from. You want him to have spades or 89 and have to bluff so you can call a bet. It's pretty bad that you block 89, but I think you're a bit too strong to fold to a bet. It's pretty close to a x/f if you think he's playing his draws aggressively.

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05-28-2018 , 06:29 PM

ChiTownBubba

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As played, river bet is probably too big. Better hands aren’t folding and worse hands are not likely to call. There aren’t a lot of hands to get value from. I can see betting bigger with AT, KT because you can bet called by QT, JT, T9. Here, there are very few, it any T’s that are going to call a bet of this size.

If you check, you give him a chance to bet missed draws, overcards, 99, 88, etc. The bet would have to be reasonable for me to be calling because him value betting a better T, even though it’s blocked, makes a lot of sense for him.

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05-28-2018 , 06:35 PM

whitemares

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Originally Posted by magicfengqi

I assumed I was ahead against a wide range for villain's BTN open. I'm ahead against any AJ+, A2 to A9 etc. I can only be beaten by 77, 44, any 2, or JJ+. My 10 blocked other 10s.

Villain having a wide preflop range doesn't mean that they're going to have a wide river 3bet shove calling range. You'll basically never beat a single hand that villain will call a shove with.

I don't think villain is going to have a T very often, but if they're taking this line with one it's going to be one that's better than yours. Villain shouldn't really have 77/44/overpairs either but it's going to happen sometimes. Villain will have Ax too, but any raise with it would be a bluff.

The only thing shoving really accomplishes is making sure villain gets paid in full with a strong hand.

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05-28-2018 , 06:36 PM

magicfengqi

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Originally Posted by ChiTownBubba

Makes sense. Thanks a lot. Can you take a look at another hand? It's against the same opponent 20 minutes later after this hand.

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/6...89/?highlight=

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05-28-2018 , 06:40 PM

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magicfengqi

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Originally Posted by whitemares

Really appreciated your analysis. How would you play this hand?

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05-28-2018 , 10:10 PM

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whitemares

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I think the turn bet is ok, but I'd check/call or check/fold the river depending on the sizing. If I were to bet I'd go much smaller.

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