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09-15-2009 , 03:18 PM
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Villain is 32/29/3 (200 hands) He seems aggro, but I never played with him before, so I cant say much about him. I have a tight image. Also what do you think about the turn call?


$10/$20 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($3782.00)
UTG+1 ($4240.00)
CO ($1990.00)
Hero (BTN) ($4179.00)
SB ($3941.00)
BB ($2000.00)

Pre-flop: ($30, 6 players) Hero is BTN 2 2
3 folds, Hero raises to $60, SB calls $50, 1 fold

Flop: J 2 8 ($140, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $110, SB raises to $360, Hero calls $250

Turn: 9 ($860, 2 players)
SB bets $660, Hero calls $660

River: A ($2,180, 2 players)
SB bets $2,861
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09-15-2009 , 03:25 PM
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You've underrepped your hand a ton....
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09-15-2009 , 03:29 PM
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I think you should either ship the flop (calling is ok to i guess) , and def ship the turn.

Call the river.
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09-15-2009 , 03:29 PM
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well you beat AJ as far as value hands go....
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09-15-2009 , 03:55 PM
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I call quickly w/ how underrepped ur hand is
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09-15-2009 , 04:00 PM
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I call quickly w/ how underrepped ur hand is
being underrepped is not the whole story here. You also have to think about what bluffs he has here, what he's capable of doing vs an underrepped range and what your hand looks like. His gutshot got there, and I don't think hes shoving a bare A like AT or AQ for value here. This is a worse spot than it looks.
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09-15-2009 , 04:04 PM
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unless he backdoored into a flush ur fine
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09-15-2009 , 04:04 PM
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I think you gotta 3 bet flop or atleast raise turn. I have no idea what to do on this river. I raise / call turn.

Do to the way you played it I think you have to call river. You said he's extremely aggressive.
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09-15-2009 , 04:08 PM
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scared money? snap
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09-15-2009 , 04:29 PM
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His river bet combined with the river card is very concerning. I really doubt he ever shows up with a worse valuehand here.

I actually wouldn't mind a fold.
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09-15-2009 , 04:39 PM
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being underrepped is not the whole story here. You also have to think about what bluffs he has here, what he's capable of doing vs an underrepped range and what your hand looks like. His gutshot got there, and I don't think hes shoving a bare A like AT or AQ for value here. This is a worse spot than it looks.
I agree it is sicker than it looks and I am not fistpump calling by any means, but considering the best hand in our perceived range is like AJ, and the rest of our range is helpless against whatever he c/r us with. Since we have to fold like 95% of our range w/ how the board ended, I think this is as good as any time to call
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09-15-2009 , 04:55 PM
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His river bet combined with the river card is very concerning. I really doubt he ever shows up with a worse valuehand here.

I actually wouldn't mind a fold.
Shouldn't villian be concerned with turn or river card? Why does he overbet river as well? No combination of clubs makes any sense for him. This could be 910, or I guess an overset. Seems very weirdly played by him.
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09-15-2009 , 05:07 PM
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Oh, didn't notice clubs got there too...i think I might fold then
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09-15-2009 , 05:12 PM
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you arent so high up in your range at all on the river (you can have any higher set (easily AA/88, 99/JJ somewhat discounted), any QT , and many backdoor flush combos). it also appears he cannot overbet shove worse for value and does not get to the river with many air hands. unless he is crazy its an annoying fold
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09-15-2009 , 05:36 PM
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09-15-2009 , 07:12 PM
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Oh, didn't notice clubs got there too...i think I might fold then
he has a set so why would you read the hand history before posting anyway


we got like most flushes in our range so we don't need to call many non flushes. but without read it's impossible to give an answer.

I would like more bets in before the river cause of stax.
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09-15-2009 , 07:32 PM
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Not raising the turn is a crime.
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