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1/2 over pair vs a thinking LAG 1/2 over pair vs a thinking LAG

11-10-2018 , 05:23 AM
1/2 effective 420.

BUT (1K) playing very LAG capable of big bluffs and barreling, cognizant of ranges and knows I’m a thinking player.
CO (300) tight passive pre, nitty post.
Hero LJ (420) TAG image.
EP (250) loose passive fish

BUT straddles 4.

EP limps. Hero LJ TTsh raise to 20. CO calls. BUT calls.
3 ways.
(67) Flop 345ssh
Hero bets 50. CO folds. BUT calls.
(167) Turn 6h
Hero checks. BUT bets 75. Hero folds.

I think there’s a good chance I have the best hand here on the turn but I fear he’s just gonna bomb it on the riv and I will be lost..
that said my range is Garbo on the board and he can and will push me around if he knows I’m folding over pairs here.

Maybe I should just check the flop...
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11-12-2018 , 02:57 AM
Bump
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11-12-2018 , 03:48 AM
I would not cbet this board, don't be like, I'm PFR, I need protecion I'm going to cbet, think about ranges, how board hits what player etc...
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11-12-2018 , 03:52 AM
I would check flop. We're 3-ways, first to act, on a board with very few good runouts for TT. They can float with so much stuff here. We'll be stuck guessing on later streets.
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11-12-2018 , 04:42 AM
Fair enough. Are u check/calling or check/folding?
We’re gonna be in a tough spot on the turn if we c/c anyways
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11-12-2018 , 04:51 AM
I would not say that I'm not cbetting because we don't have good runnouts on turns but because their range is so strong we don't want to start building the pot with weaker range.

I'd check and see how action goes, who bets and how much, I'd not be happy to see a bet...
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11-12-2018 , 05:07 AM
I start with a check otf, board is ugly, tens are meh and I wouldn't know what to do when I get raised or on many runouts, lack of position is pretty huge in these big mw pots
don't mind just c/f flop to a 1/2p+ bet and c/c small bets
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11-13-2018 , 08:05 AM
are u playing AA-JJ the same way? with just a check/fold?
seems like theyre pretty much the same hand here since JJ+ shouldnt be in our opponents range.
So if were just check/folding AA here that seems quite weak to me
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11-13-2018 , 08:18 AM
they are not same, they might look the same, but let's say AA vs TT:

most likely bluffs that villain will have are going to be 78-KQ, so JQ an KQ have 2 overcards to TT while they are almost drawing dead vs AA, also TT blocks bluffs while AA blocks almost no bluffs.

Also, I would not be surprised to see JJ some %
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11-13-2018 , 07:11 PM
x/c normal sized flop bet, x/f turn probably. Not sure why CO or BTN would have a strong range on a 345tt flop though?
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11-14-2018 , 09:58 AM
I’m actually thinking check/raising this flop might be good...

( like a very large c/r, maybe even a c/shove)
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