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0.02NL Hero AKs BTN vs Villain minraise+cbet Pre & cbet OTF/OTT in dry flop 0.02NL Hero AKs BTN vs Villain minraise+cbet Pre & cbet OTF/OTT in dry flop

03-19-2017 , 05:34 AM
    Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37683043

    Hero (BTN): $3.69 (184.5 bb)
    SB: $1.34 (67 bb)
    BB: $3.02 (151 bb)
    UTG: $1.50 (75 bb)
    MP: $2.05 (102.5 bb)
    CO: $4.55 (227.5 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with A K
    3 folds, Hero raises to $0.06, SB raises to $0.10, BB folds, Hero raises to $0.30, SB calls $0.20

    Flop: ($0.62) 8 9 2 (2 players)
    SB bets $0.30, Hero calls $0.30

    Turn: ($1.22) A (2 players)
    SB bets $0.58, Hero raises to $3.09 and is all-in, SB calls $0.16




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    PreFlop: Hero w/ standard 3BB, SB minraises, Hero does 3x 4bet because A K & Villain has low stack suggesting he is a NIT (67 BB rather than +100BB).

    Flop: SB bets 1/2 pot size OTF, since I block A & K, I put him on a hand of TT+ excluding AA & KK and I call because I think I can easily hit an overpair & the 2.0 SPR (1.34/0.67=2.00) is low.

    Turn: My question is, do I go all in here? Or do I just bet the remaining amount of his stack ($0.16)?
    0.02NL Hero AKs BTN vs Villain minraise+cbet Pre & cbet OTF/OTT in dry flop Quote
    03-19-2017 , 05:44 AM
    It really makes no difference to you.. I think you believe it makes a difference maybe to villain? Seeing 3.09$ instead of 0.74$? I don't think though it will.. I mean raising all-in or raising to 0.74$ I don't see him folding regardless.. I found myself in similar spots as you do, and I always go all in.
    0.02NL Hero AKs BTN vs Villain minraise+cbet Pre & cbet OTF/OTT in dry flop Quote
    03-19-2017 , 06:57 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Sypk
    It really makes no difference to you.. I think you believe it makes a difference maybe to villain? Seeing 3.09$ instead of 0.74$? I don't think though it will.. I mean raising all-in or raising to 0.74$ I don't see him folding regardless.. I found myself in similar spots as you do, and I always go all in.
    Thank you Sypk. Do you think he could have nutted a set? Or am I going all-in OTT every single time?
    0.02NL Hero AKs BTN vs Villain minraise+cbet Pre & cbet OTF/OTT in dry flop Quote
    03-19-2017 , 07:09 AM
    not a huge fan of your float on flop, preflop he obviously likes his hand and on flop he's telling you that he has a decent piece of it.

    MP2 23.79% 22.73% 1.06% AdKd
    MP3 76.21% 75.16% 1.06% QQ-88, AcKc, KcQc, QcJc, JcTc]

    his range is probably a bit wider, but most of the time you're going to miss the turn and he's likely to continue betting and you'll be forced to fold. on turn its fine, if you're floating AK to fold to an A turn i have no idea what the plan was.
    0.02NL Hero AKs BTN vs Villain minraise+cbet Pre & cbet OTF/OTT in dry flop Quote
    03-19-2017 , 07:24 AM
    Nice hand, 4bet bigger though
    0.02NL Hero AKs BTN vs Villain minraise+cbet Pre & cbet OTF/OTT in dry flop Quote
    03-19-2017 , 08:07 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by teslanikola
    Thank you Sypk. Do you think he could have nutted a set? Or am I going all-in OTT every single time?
    I don't see him taking this line (min-3bet and call 4bet) with 22-TT, I rather seeing him doing this with hands that he do not like playing OOP but won't like folding either and tries to 3bet bluff or value hands such as JJ+.

    On that flop when he donks lead there I only seeing him doing this with air .. if he had a set (or overpair) I think he checked to let you c-bet then raise-shove over your s-bet or call (depends on your c-bet sizing) and look to stack off on turn. Sometimes might also donk with a draw or 8x,9x or 2x but when it has such a hand I think he bets smaller trying to stopping you to bet bigger hoping u fold or just call so he can see cheaper if he makes trips or 2pair . You should also consider that he is a complete fish and has no plan or idea how he'd like to play his hand.

    When I see someone has a stack less than 100BB, from my point of view its either a fish (as a regular will top-up) or a shortstacker (if below 40BB is a fish as a shortstacker will top-up)

    On flop I would have called also and give-up on a non-helping turn. so.. judging by my above notes, on river you have a easy decision to get your money in.

    PS: I'm also playing at same limit as you do so you don't need to take my responses for good.. just filter them through your own head & thoughts and decide if I'm right or wrong.

    Last edited by Sypk; 03-19-2017 at 08:12 AM.
    0.02NL Hero AKs BTN vs Villain minraise+cbet Pre & cbet OTF/OTT in dry flop Quote
    03-19-2017 , 08:12 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Sypk
    I don't see him taking this line (min-3bet and call 4bet) with 22-TT, I rather seeing him doing this with hands that he do not like playing OOP but won't like folding either and tries to 3bet bluff or value hands such as JJ+.

    On that flop when he donks lead there I only seeing him doing this with air .. if he had a set I think he checked to let you c-bet then raise-shove over your s-bet or call (depends on your c-bet sizing) and look to stack off on turn. Sometimes might also donk with a draw or 8x,9x or 2x but when it has such a hand I think he bets smaller trying to stopping you to bet bigger hoping u just call. You should also consider that he is a complete fish and has no plan or idea how he'd like to play his hand.

    When I see someone has a stack less than 100BB, from my point of view its either a fish (as a regular will top-up) or a shortstacker (if below 40BB is a fish as a shortstacker will top-up)

    On flop I would have called also and give-up on a non-helping turn. so.. judging by my above notes, on river you have a easy decision to get your money in.

    PS: I'm also playing at same limit as you do so you don't need to take my responses for good.. just filter them through your own head & thoughts and decide if I'm right or wrong.
    why are we calling flop to draw to only a handful of helpful turns in such a low spr pot? we have to assume villain is going to be shoving most turns (the majority of which we don't like), so it makes no sense to just flat flop. if we were 100bb effective with villain we have some post flop maneuverability and it could be justified to float... but not here. just fold
    0.02NL Hero AKs BTN vs Villain minraise+cbet Pre & cbet OTF/OTT in dry flop Quote
    03-19-2017 , 09:44 AM
    Because we can make a fair guess that villain has a majority of unpaired hands in his range so AK is a value call.
    0.02NL Hero AKs BTN vs Villain minraise+cbet Pre & cbet OTF/OTT in dry flop Quote
    03-19-2017 , 07:16 PM
    how can we guess that? 88-QQ are imo the most likely hands villain has given the preflop action and the flop lead. you expect villain to show up with what, QJ?
    0.02NL Hero AKs BTN vs Villain minraise+cbet Pre & cbet OTF/OTT in dry flop Quote
    03-20-2017 , 05:59 AM
    He started with 67BB and min raised from the SB followed by a cold call. So let's just say his range is wider than 88-QQ. Honestly I wouldn't even bother trying to range him because you will be well off. But I will say with some certainty he has more junk than value, coupled with our 6 outs I'm not folding.
    0.02NL Hero AKs BTN vs Villain minraise+cbet Pre & cbet OTF/OTT in dry flop Quote
    03-20-2017 , 02:06 PM
    Bigger pre imo. Otherwise well played assuming your plan was to fold turn unimproved.

    FWIW AK is still good otf some of the time in spots like this. Also, being short stacked does not suggest a V is a nit.
    0.02NL Hero AKs BTN vs Villain minraise+cbet Pre & cbet OTF/OTT in dry flop Quote
    03-20-2017 , 02:31 PM
    Quote:
    Honestly I wouldn't even bother trying to range him because you will be well off.
    Pretty much this. You can only really make broad assumptions because he's obviously terrible and can have all sorts of exciting spew. You've got AK in a 4-bet pot for <70bb. If the money goes in then whatever.
    0.02NL Hero AKs BTN vs Villain minraise+cbet Pre &amp; cbet OTF/OTT in dry flop Quote

          
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