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Worst hand you call as SB here?

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NL Holdem 0.25(BB)
SB ($36.80)
BB ($103.67)
UTG ($19.24)
HJ ($22.95)
CO ($25)
HERO ($25.41)

Dealt to Hero: 8

UTG Folds, HJ Folds, CO Folds, HERO Raises To $0.50, SB Calls $0.40, BB Folds

Hero SPR on Flop: [19.93 effective]
Flop ($1.25): J

SB Bets $0.60 (Rem. Stack: $35.70), HERO Calls $0.60 (Rem. Stack: $24.31)

Turn ($2.45): J

SB Bets $1.17 (Rem. Stack: $34.53), HERO Raises To $5.84 (Rem. Stack: $18.47), SB Calls $4.67 (Rem. Stack: $29.86)

River ($14.13): J

SB Checks, HERO Bets $18.47 (allin)

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04-13-2021 , 02:18 AM

whitemares

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Trying to get inside the mind of a fish is an exercise in futility

Trying to get him off top pair probably isn't much better

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04-13-2021 , 02:55 AM

Lazarus Ledd

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6 river is snap check for me. We win sometimes with K high.

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04-13-2021 , 03:31 AM

Ramius

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rather flop fold vs fish, fold turn as you are drawing to split now often, AP river is whatever. but if you think he cant have 26s, you are dead ****ing wrong

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04-13-2021 , 03:55 AM

superpoker666

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flop is close, these half pot donk tends to be medium strength hands or bluffs. I prefer raising with a polarized range. Turn continue barrel when equity improved or give up.

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04-13-2021 , 05:16 AM

Brokenstars

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I mean sb cc pre and then donks flop.

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04-13-2021 , 05:53 AM

Ceres

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A3s

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04-13-2021 , 08:19 AM

EC2200

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River's whatever but turn just looks like random button clicking to me.

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04-13-2021 , 11:40 AM

FutureInsights

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Why is there a number to bluff with? Give up by river.

I'd rather lose small pots than lose big pots (I 'd rather win big pots myself).

Trying to go against theory is a losing strategy.

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04-13-2021 , 11:59 AM

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DooDooPoker

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I guess no one likes this bluff. I thought once I picked up equity OTT/block nut hands + him having a ton of Jx made it a pretty standard blast off.

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04-13-2021 , 12:04 PM

#11

FutureInsights

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Originally Posted by DooDooPoker

I guess no one likes this bluff. I thought once I picked up equity OTT/block nut hands + him having a ton of Jx made it a pretty standard blast off.

There you go. You did not pick up ton of equity on the Turn. And you don't know if he had a ton of Jx. We should be thinking ranges here, not specific hands, that is pre 2010.

What could SB be calling with for min raise open? A ton of 2 pairs and straights got there.

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04-13-2021 , 12:07 PM

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Simba03

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Originally Posted by FutureInsights

There you go. You did not pick up ton of equity on the Turn. And you don't know if he had a ton of Jx. We should be thinking ranges here, not specific hands, that is pre 2010.

What!?! Doodoo is clearly thinking in terms of ranges. You might disagree with the analysis, but there is nothing in his analysis to suggest he is thinking in terms of specific hands. Your assessment is false.

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04-13-2021 , 12:09 PM

#13

DooDooPoker

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Originally Posted by FutureInsights

You talk about ranges but you are putting straights in his range.

How does that work?

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04-13-2021 , 12:10 PM

#14

DooDooPoker

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Originally Posted by Simba03

Confirmed pre 2010 thinking.

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04-13-2021 , 12:24 PM

#15

FutureInsights

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Originally Posted by DooDooPoker

Confirmed pre 2010 thinking.

Um, you stated Jx. That is specific hands, not range (such as J9, T9, etc).

Here's a range for you: 99-22, AJs-A2s, KJs-K2s, Q2s+, JTs, J8s-J5s, T6s+, 96s+, 85s+, 74s+, 63s+, 53s+, 43s, AJo-A7o, A5o, K9o+, QTo+, J9o+

A straight is made with T8 - numbskulls.

Confirmed, don't know what they are talking about.

Oh, forgot to mention sets made it too.

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04-13-2021 , 12:30 PM

#16

Simba03

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Originally Posted by FutureInsights

Um, you stated Jx. That is specific hands, not range (such as J9, T9, etc).

Sure.

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04-13-2021 , 12:37 PM

#17

FutureInsights

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Originally Posted by Simba03

Sure.

Show better.

Yall have the same coach or discord or something?

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04-13-2021 , 12:41 PM

#18

Simba03

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Originally Posted by FutureInsights

Show better.

When OP says Jx, it is shorthand for the hand class of broadway-type hands containing a J, which OP considers to form a large concentration of V's range. Not a specific hand.

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04-13-2021 , 12:43 PM

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IIlllIlIllIIlIlllI

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In my small sample size I've noticed these SB cold callers almost always have either low pocket pairs, weak suited Ax, soooometimes low/medium SC, and then you've got the guys calling like anytihng from KJo to 74o.

I'm not surprised if he shows 22 or like KJ/QJo type ****

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04-13-2021 , 12:44 PM

#20

DooDooPoker

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Originally Posted by FutureInsights

Haha.

It's called Bayesian Inference.

You are putting straights in someone's range when they just call the turn + I block them.

Stick to your fake DB analysis where your red line drops off a cliff and you have a 45 W$WSF.

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04-13-2021 , 12:48 PM

#21

DooDooPoker

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Originally Posted by Simba03

When OP says Jx, it is shorthand for the hand class of broadway-type hands containing a J, which OP considers to form a large concentration of V's range. Not a specific hand.

ty sir.

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04-13-2021 , 12:51 PM

#22

FutureInsights

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Originally Posted by DooDooPoker

dude, my red line is higher than my blue line. And, it is above the mid line. You don't even have solver. And Jx is not a RANGE, it is still specific to one card.

Show me yours, I'll show you mine.

PS, that is not an example of Bayesian Inference, Logic and Mathematics major.

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04-13-2021 , 12:58 PM

#23

DooDooPoker

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Originally Posted by FutureInsights

Semantics but you seem to be trying really hard so you can have it. I like the part where you read the board and act like you are enlightening people. Literally everyone on this forum can read the board/count combos. That is first day of school stuff.

I've had a solver for a few years now. More nonsense from you.

You are putting straights and sets in this guys range - that might be the worst range analysis I've seen in a long time.

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04-13-2021 , 01:02 PM

#24

FutureInsights

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Originally Posted by DooDooPoker

Semantics but you seem to be trying really hard so you can have it.

I've had a solver for a few years now. More nonsense from you.

You are putting straights and sets in this guys range - they might be the worst range analysis I've seen in a long time.

You stated you can't run solves on your defunct computer. You have thanked guys for the solves in your threads.

Explain the Bayesian Inference from your analysis?

Why would putting sets when folks call with pocket pairs be the worst? What I have seen is you sticking to one hand range, not the entire range.

I am disagreeing with you. The option still open, show me yours, I'll show you mine.

How old are you, really?