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5NL AA 3bet overcall weird turn spot 5NL AA 3bet overcall weird turn spot

01-20-2018 , 09:07 PM
[converted_hand][hand_history]WPN, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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Villain is playing 28/18/0 over ~100 hands. Not much to go on but probably calls IP too much and only 3bets QQ+ and AK.

SB: $5.74 (114.8 bb)
BB: $10.31 (206.2 bb)
UTG: $5 (100 bb)
MP: $7.03 (140.6 bb)
Hero (CO): $5.63 (112.6 bb)
BTN: $7.79 (155.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A A
UTG raises to $0.14, MP folds, Hero raises to $0.45, BTN calls $0.45, 2 folds, UTG calls $0.31

So first of all I think the over call is pretty weird. I think villains range is pretty much 99-JJ and maybe some suited broadways. Villain 2 is pretty much calling entire UTG opening range other than hands he wants to 4b.

Flop: ($1.42) 7 3 8 (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $0.60, BTN calls $0.60, UTG calls $0.60

I would usually go 1/3 sizing OTF with most of my 3b range on this board. Decide to size up slightly considering its multi way and I'm out of position to one player. When the IP player calls I'm putting him on an overpair like 99-JJ maybe even QQ given how tight villain has been playing. We block the nfd so the only flush draws I see him overcalling PF and then calling the flop are like KQss, maybe QJss. I don't really see how he could call with any offsuit broadways PF. When villain 2 calls as well I'm putting the same overpairs minus QQ and more suited fd combos like T9ss, JTss, etc. Then again a lot of those fd combos would likely check raise and look to scoop up potential dead money. Then he'll also have some random garbage that decides to see a turn that we crush.

Turn: ($3.22) K (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $2.29, UTG folds, Hero raises to $4.58 and is all-in, BTN calls $2.29

Pretty weird turn. Neither players have KK and the Ks diminishes a lot of the broadway combos that either player could have, especially the PF overcaller. I decide a check planning to c/r given that villain stabs a lot of missed turn cbets. I think we have the best hand here most of the time and we still have equity even if we're behind. The only flushes villain overcalls PF with are QJss, maybe TJss and I think both of those hands can be discounted a lot of the time. The only set I'm semi concerned about are 88. When OOP villain folds I think we're ahead pretty much always. Do you think we should just fire again and look to rip it in OTR or snap vs a raise OTT?

River: ($12.38) T (2 players, 1 is all-in)
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01-22-2018 , 05:27 AM
Your thought process seems solid as long as you know both villains are not fish. I wouldn't include such a in depth thought process,might discourage people from posting.

I think I would just bet turn myself, unless you are fairly certain of your read then wp. Interested in hearing what others would have done.
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01-22-2018 , 05:39 AM
We block AK which likely doesn't even float on that board so villain shouldn't have any Kx. The K turn holds a large amount of fold equity vs hands were ahead of so id be inclined to check call the turn. I don't like the check raise though.
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01-22-2018 , 05:41 AM
It's an OK line.
I wouldn't put people on too narrow a range or assume they can't cold call certain hands. If you have a database it might be worth looking through it to see the kinds of ridiculous and semi-bad hands both fish and regs show up with
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01-22-2018 , 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Feng Shui
We block AK which likely doesn't even float on that board so villain shouldn't have any Kx. The K turn holds a large amount of fold equity vs hands were ahead of so id be inclined to check call the turn. I don't like the check raise though.
For sure but we leave lol stacks behind. Better to size up flop and shove turn
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01-22-2018 , 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by tomj
For sure but we leave lol stacks behind. Better to size up flop and shove turn
I can get on-board with that.
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01-22-2018 , 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by tomj
For sure but we leave lol stacks behind. Better to size up flop and shove turn
+2
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01-22-2018 , 02:00 PM
I'd usually bet k turn again with most of my range. Weird in this spot 3way.

I still bet tho
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