study or poker?
09-29-2010
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here's what people that make more money than you at poker think:
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Sigh, I luck boxed my way back into a really good university after I initially left without an explanation over a year ago. I knew it would be tough to re-adjust after a year of pure freedom and travelling around the world with other poker players, didn't realise it would be this tough. Starting to realise this isn't what I want, and that I was basically only doing it to please my parents, and to avoid the feelings of not accomplishing anything with my days i.e. see skeets post above.
But you know what, I love my poker playing friends too much, and the life style I'm able to lead. Plus even if I do get a degree the only real job I ever see myself getting is some form of stock/money trading, which is a rather slim field and one my degree doesn't even apply too. I'm sure alot of people who will read this are in a similar boat to me in that they're unsure whether they want to pursue full time education or to become a professional poker player. I just don't see the point of spending 3 years of hard work and money (tuition/sacrificing poker playing time) to earn a degree I'm never gonna use just because that's the social norm. I've always put in poor volume and I feel now is the time to change, to stop extravagantly spending my money, put in the hours and invest in property/stocks in a few years time once the economy improves. At this point I'm basically looking for reassurance as I've already made my mind up.
It's going to be some what difficult explaining this to my dad but I've already had the talk with my mum and she's supportive and understands why I've made this decision. I'm lucky in that my parents are supportive in whatever I do.
But you know what, I love my poker playing friends too much, and the life style I'm able to lead. Plus even if I do get a degree the only real job I ever see myself getting is some form of stock/money trading, which is a rather slim field and one my degree doesn't even apply too. I'm sure alot of people who will read this are in a similar boat to me in that they're unsure whether they want to pursue full time education or to become a professional poker player. I just don't see the point of spending 3 years of hard work and money (tuition/sacrificing poker playing time) to earn a degree I'm never gonna use just because that's the social norm. I've always put in poor volume and I feel now is the time to change, to stop extravagantly spending my money, put in the hours and invest in property/stocks in a few years time once the economy improves. At this point I'm basically looking for reassurance as I've already made my mind up.
It's going to be some what difficult explaining this to my dad but I've already had the talk with my mum and she's supportive and understands why I've made this decision. I'm lucky in that my parents are supportive in whatever I do.
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I was in the exact situation and got re admitted last year. the first semester i struggled a little and got two b's and a D then last semester i got 2 b's and an A. I highly highly recommend finishing out your degree. first of all being in college is a sick opprotunity, and its fun. Everyone i talk to thats graduated just wishes and wishes they could be back in school (albeit they arent poker players).
I think its wise to go to college and keep your eggs in more than one basket, and if you feel overwhelmed than just take lest credits. For instance im only taking 9 credits this semester, three classes and i still have time to play poker, it just takes strong planning and time management.
Also, i mean the online poker scene is so unpredictable when considering the future. i mean its nice and relatively easy money right now but can we even say for certain itll be around in 5, or 10 years? thats why i think its smart to have your eggs in more than one basket.
I dont want to sound mean because i have the same problem gettng in volume sometimes, but if your not in school and have no excuse to not play hands then maybe your problem is your kinda lazy (as we all are) and might just not want to go to school to take the easy way out. Im not sure if that accurately describes you but dont make your decisions because of how much work is involved its possible you may regret it, especially if you cant get back into the university in a few years.
Also if your going into finance, like me, its not like your degree is worthless even if you dont get a job with it. The stuff people learn in finance is very practical to our everyday lives because obviously making the best decisions with your money (that come up every day) is really beneficial.
Obviously your old enough and smart enough to make your own decision, i was faced at the same crossroads after poker went better than i ever thought possible and toke a year off and was thinking about going back. What did it for me was being a pothead and hanging out with losers that talked all the time about how they wish they had an opprotunity to go to college and thats when i knew i really screwed up.
Personally, I like the classes im in and value the lessons im learning. In addition and maybe more importantly it makes me feel more like a normal human being socially. When I toke a year off, its not like many people in minneapolis play poker so i didnt have poker friends and then all the sudden my friends at school i have less and less in common with and didnt hang out with them much, now im surrounded by people my age and have tons of friends and am doing fun things every weekend. Basically what im trying to say is that school is plus ev for your brain and socially.
I Hope that helps, gl in whatever you decide
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I think its wise to go to college and keep your eggs in more than one basket, and if you feel overwhelmed than just take lest credits. For instance im only taking 9 credits this semester, three classes and i still have time to play poker, it just takes strong planning and time management.
Also, i mean the online poker scene is so unpredictable when considering the future. i mean its nice and relatively easy money right now but can we even say for certain itll be around in 5, or 10 years? thats why i think its smart to have your eggs in more than one basket.
I dont want to sound mean because i have the same problem gettng in volume sometimes, but if your not in school and have no excuse to not play hands then maybe your problem is your kinda lazy (as we all are) and might just not want to go to school to take the easy way out. Im not sure if that accurately describes you but dont make your decisions because of how much work is involved its possible you may regret it, especially if you cant get back into the university in a few years.
Also if your going into finance, like me, its not like your degree is worthless even if you dont get a job with it. The stuff people learn in finance is very practical to our everyday lives because obviously making the best decisions with your money (that come up every day) is really beneficial.
Obviously your old enough and smart enough to make your own decision, i was faced at the same crossroads after poker went better than i ever thought possible and toke a year off and was thinking about going back. What did it for me was being a pothead and hanging out with losers that talked all the time about how they wish they had an opprotunity to go to college and thats when i knew i really screwed up.
Personally, I like the classes im in and value the lessons im learning. In addition and maybe more importantly it makes me feel more like a normal human being socially. When I toke a year off, its not like many people in minneapolis play poker so i didnt have poker friends and then all the sudden my friends at school i have less and less in common with and didnt hang out with them much, now im surrounded by people my age and have tons of friends and am doing fun things every weekend. Basically what im trying to say is that school is plus ev for your brain and socially.
I Hope that helps, gl in whatever you decide
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Atothe, I was going to college right after high school, dropped out after 2-3 years, started work as a network engineer for 2 years, then went pro and went back to school. I ended up going for 6 months before dropping it again. I just didn't enjoy going to classes, and the thought of paying a bunch of money for something I didn't enjoy and wasn't sure I needed seemed like a bad idea. So I dropped school again and I'm fine with the decision 1.5 years later.
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Go for it man. Western society is conditioned to think that dropping out of college = failure at life. Its a huge myth. I'm not saying there aren't benefits to a college education, there are. But there are plenty of other ways to go. And never has this been truer than in todays world. I could go on but i won't bore you. Good luck, buddy.
-Jude.
-Jude.
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I really appreciate the advice AJ, thing is my position is a little different to yours. I have re started my degree as a freshmen, so that's 3 years out of my life If I want to complete my degree. Secondly My degree is history and politics which though interesting is really not applicable to any jobs I forsee myself ever getting.
Secondly I've spent the last year just travelling around the world, I loved the freedom and the experiences. There are lots of places I still want to go and re visit, uni doesn't allow that freedom. Another important thing is, none of my poker friends are losers, they're nearly all solid winning 1/2 + players who I really enjoy hanging out with, so I wouldn't get stuck in some horrific rut where everyones short comings rub off on each other ending up in social disaster. I may not have worded that correctly but what I mean is I don't intend to stay at home, feeling alienated as I no longer have much in common with my old friends, who these days are busy with their own lives. I do totally get the 'feeling like a normal person' thing, and the possible security a degree may provide, but it will never provide a good high paying job imo, and who's to say poker won't last, and if it doesn't I want to take advantage of it while I still can. Not that will matter, as like I said I intend to put the lazy pos side of me to one side and actually grow up and grind, rather than just embracing the materialistic fun side to the life where I just spend my money irresponsibly. Hopefully this will result in me getting enough money together to buy a propety (s), rent it out along with other invetsments.
Basically I want to do what makes me happy, I'll admit college is really fun, but I've already done a year of it and it was great, but once the second year arrives it's alot of monotonous academia. I've never had a problem taking risks and when I woke up at 8am this morning for my 9am lecture, I realised this life wasn't for me and I felt suffocated. There will be things I'l have to change about myself, i.e. work ethic but If I can't do some thing as simple as grind poker for 25+ hours a week then I'm never gonna succeed at anything.
Secondly I've spent the last year just travelling around the world, I loved the freedom and the experiences. There are lots of places I still want to go and re visit, uni doesn't allow that freedom. Another important thing is, none of my poker friends are losers, they're nearly all solid winning 1/2 + players who I really enjoy hanging out with, so I wouldn't get stuck in some horrific rut where everyones short comings rub off on each other ending up in social disaster. I may not have worded that correctly but what I mean is I don't intend to stay at home, feeling alienated as I no longer have much in common with my old friends, who these days are busy with their own lives. I do totally get the 'feeling like a normal person' thing, and the possible security a degree may provide, but it will never provide a good high paying job imo, and who's to say poker won't last, and if it doesn't I want to take advantage of it while I still can. Not that will matter, as like I said I intend to put the lazy pos side of me to one side and actually grow up and grind, rather than just embracing the materialistic fun side to the life where I just spend my money irresponsibly. Hopefully this will result in me getting enough money together to buy a propety (s), rent it out along with other invetsments.
Basically I want to do what makes me happy, I'll admit college is really fun, but I've already done a year of it and it was great, but once the second year arrives it's alot of monotonous academia. I've never had a problem taking risks and when I woke up at 8am this morning for my 9am lecture, I realised this life wasn't for me and I felt suffocated. There will be things I'l have to change about myself, i.e. work ethic but If I can't do some thing as simple as grind poker for 25+ hours a week then I'm never gonna succeed at anything.
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The only real thing I considered when choosing between education and poker wasn't rly the importance of getting a degree/something to fall back on when poker fails, it was more or less the social stuff. As far as online poker goes, the possibility to evolve as an individual is gonna be very limited. Ofcourse, if you're ambitious enough u'd see to that you take care of this anyway; but I'm pretty sure many players would be disappointed once they examine themselves in how the've actually managed to handle this part.
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This. College can help a lot of people who don't know what they want to do with their lives need guidance/credentials to earn in a standard society-expected job. Whenever I am joking with you about when you'll drop out, it isn't to tease or humiliate you; I understand your situation and think you've realized as much as I do that college (esp w/ your degree since mine is like the identical American version) is not necessary for you. Sure, poker could disappear at some point and you'll have to do something else, but until then, poker allows you to print monies and save up for future opportunities. Whereas others need the rigidity of college to prepare them for the workforce (implying they can't succeed w/out it), you are 1)smarter than the standard student, thus more likely to succeed in endeavors on your own and 2) able to earn money at a young age to reinvest into something profitable later if there ever is a need to give up poker.
If you are staying in college w/ your degree, it should be 100% for the fun of learning and the social experiences that you just won't get in poker (i.e. women all around w/ similar interests). Even though you can find women @ any bar or whatever, its much easier to find better girls who you understand more in college than probably anywhere. I mean to fix this all you really need to do is join a gym, maybe a yoga class or something that women like too (then it can relax you and teach you to detilt easier too ldo).
I will say I had some of my best experiences w/ some of my best friends in college. I also enjoy learning and could envision myself going back to school for fun @ some point in my life a la Raptor. But if I was as good as you are @ poker right now when I was 20, no way would I have completed my degree. I'd have studied and grinded my ass off til I was a millionaire. Your good friends will understand and it shouldn't matter whether you are in college or not; they will hang out w/ you regardless and provide you some sense of normalcy/humility to keep you from degening your roll away or being so consumed w/ just poker.
Be lucky that your parents will accept your choices. They might not like it @ first, but they'll come around. Just know if you are completely disregarding school to treat poker like your business: no degen shots, put in the time, make sure you have expenses covered before overspending (then once thats accomplished, but however much marmite you want). Good luck w/ whatever you choose, you know I'll support either option.
If you are staying in college w/ your degree, it should be 100% for the fun of learning and the social experiences that you just won't get in poker (i.e. women all around w/ similar interests). Even though you can find women @ any bar or whatever, its much easier to find better girls who you understand more in college than probably anywhere. I mean to fix this all you really need to do is join a gym, maybe a yoga class or something that women like too (then it can relax you and teach you to detilt easier too ldo).
I will say I had some of my best experiences w/ some of my best friends in college. I also enjoy learning and could envision myself going back to school for fun @ some point in my life a la Raptor. But if I was as good as you are @ poker right now when I was 20, no way would I have completed my degree. I'd have studied and grinded my ass off til I was a millionaire. Your good friends will understand and it shouldn't matter whether you are in college or not; they will hang out w/ you regardless and provide you some sense of normalcy/humility to keep you from degening your roll away or being so consumed w/ just poker.
Be lucky that your parents will accept your choices. They might not like it @ first, but they'll come around. Just know if you are completely disregarding school to treat poker like your business: no degen shots, put in the time, make sure you have expenses covered before overspending (then once thats accomplished, but however much marmite you want). Good luck w/ whatever you choose, you know I'll support either option.
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i always find the college topic interesting.
i finished uni, felt ilke i got scammed for 80k, and basically recommend not going to uni to just about everyone i know (and just about always getting a negative reaction)
im a firm believer that uni is just a way for people to delay growing up under the pretense of getting educated with a few exceptions for people looking to go into medical/engineering.
as far as im concerned, people who are going to be proactive and productive are going to find a way to do so with or without a degree
i finished uni, felt ilke i got scammed for 80k, and basically recommend not going to uni to just about everyone i know (and just about always getting a negative reaction)
im a firm believer that uni is just a way for people to delay growing up under the pretense of getting educated with a few exceptions for people looking to go into medical/engineering.
as far as im concerned, people who are going to be proactive and productive are going to find a way to do so with or without a degree
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i support your decision, its a good idea like you mentioned to surround yourself with good influences. It really is true that people rub off on you, even subconciously.
If your going to do this then definitely go all in with it (no pun intended), treat it like a 9-5 job and grind your ass off so that you arent wasting your time.
for me its kinda funny when im in school and in a productive mindset i get in more hands than some of the times during the summer, funny how that works out.
anyway, gl hope it turns out really well.
If your going to do this then definitely go all in with it (no pun intended), treat it like a 9-5 job and grind your ass off so that you arent wasting your time.
for me its kinda funny when im in school and in a productive mindset i get in more hands than some of the times during the summer, funny how that works out.
anyway, gl hope it turns out really well.
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yea have to agree, considering college a huge waste of time/money is ridiculous
a pretty simple excercise, is to look back at your high school peers and take a look at what those who went to college are doing compared to those who didn't
In most cases it's really not even close.
Not to mention that if you ask people about the best time of their life, the overwhelming majority will say college, as if it is a no brainer question.
a pretty simple excercise, is to look back at your high school peers and take a look at what those who went to college are doing compared to those who didn't
In most cases it's really not even close.
Not to mention that if you ask people about the best time of their life, the overwhelming majority will say college, as if it is a no brainer question.
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school is a waste of time and money for those who can't find a subject to study that they are interested in. My major was boring. I didn't go to class at all, and when I did, not matter what time of day it was, no matter what I ate or how much sleep I had gotten the night before, I fell asleep a good 65-70% of the time. I just found the information being communicated to be irrelevant and basically worthless. School was a huge waste for me, so despite being close to graduating, I just quit.
For people with passion for their subject of choice, then yea sure college is worth it. If you are there because your parents sent you, then **** it just quit
For people with passion for their subject of choice, then yea sure college is worth it. If you are there because your parents sent you, then **** it just quit
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unfortunately employers heavily frown upon the "**** it just quit" style of thinking, and that makes things quite difficult. I mean if you werent able to play poker for a living vincent, what else would you be qualified to do?
Also there are like a million things to study, at thousands of university's. Pretty tough not to be able to find something that interests you. I majored in golf for goodness sake.
Also there are like a million things to study, at thousands of university's. Pretty tough not to be able to find something that interests you. I majored in golf for goodness sake.
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this is what happened in my case, as i detested every moment of finishing up my mech e degree, but it was well worth it because I later (during my third and fourth years) found out i was interested in the markets and different financial instruments, and was able to sell myself using my degree as a reference point.....i know i wouldnt have gotten the job otherwise
basically, getting a good degree keeps your options open years down the road in case things dont go according to plan A (happened to me as I used to always think I would be a professional poker player a couple years back during the start of the pokerstars/ end of party poker days but realized this was not the ideal path for me...)
basically, getting a good degree keeps your options open years down the road in case things dont go according to plan A (happened to me as I used to always think I would be a professional poker player a couple years back during the start of the pokerstars/ end of party poker days but realized this was not the ideal path for me...)
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maybe i've just encountered odd variance with the people ive come across in life, but when i was a teen i worked as a lobsterman for a guy who didn't go to college and just worked as a longshoreman until he saved up enough money for his own boats and now owns the 3rd or 4th biggest international lobster distributor on planet earth through nothing but hard work, drive and people skills. no college degree. he knocked up his hs gf and decided he had to fast track his way to loot and made the necessary sacrifices.
i can't help but think of guys like jay-z, bill gates, etc. who juts had enough initiative and drive to get to where they wanted to be.
dont get me wrong, i got my college degree, but most of my friends who i went to school with are just lazy pieces of crap who feel entitled to a job because they have a piece of paper from a uni and i just dont think thats how reality works. it's 98% drive and connections and 2% skill/education. i'm surprised so many people disagree. i really do cite getting a degree as the closest thing i have to a regret in life.
for most people a degree is just a way to ensure that they'll be able to make other people money for the rest of their life. idk maybe im jaded or something obv respect everyone here's opinion on the matter.
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i probably have a somewhat skewed view because i obviously luckboxed figuring out poker, and maybe it's my ego, but i just think most msnl+ poker regs have the type of mind/skillset that would enable them to succeed in various endeavors due to their competitive nature and intellect, just so happens we all chose poker. i think people end up where they are in life more based on their personality and work ethic and not their education.
i also think its fair to argue that the whole university system is foremost based on profit (particularly in the USA) rather than fostering money making/success skills in students. i'm pretty sure the average person is indoctrinated at a young age that in order to "have a job" you must "go to school" and i find it hard to believe this isn't done with economic incentive from the powers that be. basically in 2010 your whole life is being the victim of a sales pitch and it's your job to sort out substance from illusion and not be the fish in the game of life.
sorry for the novel dudes. its a worthwhile topic imo.
i can't help but think of guys like jay-z, bill gates, etc. who juts had enough initiative and drive to get to where they wanted to be.
dont get me wrong, i got my college degree, but most of my friends who i went to school with are just lazy pieces of crap who feel entitled to a job because they have a piece of paper from a uni and i just dont think thats how reality works. it's 98% drive and connections and 2% skill/education. i'm surprised so many people disagree. i really do cite getting a degree as the closest thing i have to a regret in life.
for most people a degree is just a way to ensure that they'll be able to make other people money for the rest of their life. idk maybe im jaded or something obv respect everyone here's opinion on the matter.
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i probably have a somewhat skewed view because i obviously luckboxed figuring out poker, and maybe it's my ego, but i just think most msnl+ poker regs have the type of mind/skillset that would enable them to succeed in various endeavors due to their competitive nature and intellect, just so happens we all chose poker. i think people end up where they are in life more based on their personality and work ethic and not their education.
i also think its fair to argue that the whole university system is foremost based on profit (particularly in the USA) rather than fostering money making/success skills in students. i'm pretty sure the average person is indoctrinated at a young age that in order to "have a job" you must "go to school" and i find it hard to believe this isn't done with economic incentive from the powers that be. basically in 2010 your whole life is being the victim of a sales pitch and it's your job to sort out substance from illusion and not be the fish in the game of life.
sorry for the novel dudes. its a worthwhile topic imo.
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Well that is almost an argument for going to college? As is they have no shot to succeed, but if they went to college maybe they would have a chance? Something could "click"? I mean college class was a hell of a lot more fun/informative than highschool just based on it being more centered on something you want to learn about.
And I'm not trying to isolate the kids who didnt go to college into "the poeple that couldnt get into college". Even the people who were like "college isnt for me/college sucked" they're not doing anything for the most part either ime.
And I'm not trying to isolate the kids who didnt go to college into "the poeple that couldnt get into college". Even the people who were like "college isnt for me/college sucked" they're not doing anything for the most part either ime.
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lol, how is there no love for this
correlation/causation issue to some extent (in general, people who finish college will have more success than people who don't b/c they're more motivated, not b/c they learned stuff in college), though it's obv true that most firms worth working for won't hire people who don't have a degree.
college is a scam imo, but that doesn't mean there's not tons of merit to finishing.
correlation/causation issue to some extent (in general, people who finish college will have more success than people who don't b/c they're more motivated, not b/c they learned stuff in college), though it's obv true that most firms worth working for won't hire people who don't have a degree.
college is a scam imo, but that doesn't mean there's not tons of merit to finishing.
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The World is your eductation, college is an instituion.
To an extent no matter what you do, the grass is always greener on the otherside, everything is a compromise. Everyone is different, there is no universal anwser.
I quit school and havent regret it, but have questioned it several times. Lifes to short, do what makes you happy.
To an extent no matter what you do, the grass is always greener on the otherside, everything is a compromise. Everyone is different, there is no universal anwser.
I quit school and havent regret it, but have questioned it several times. Lifes to short, do what makes you happy.
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I think there's definitely elements of truth in both camps points and reasoning. That being an education definitely helps you to acquire a good job down the line. However it's hardly impossible to make alot of money without a piece of paper if you have the right drive/initiative. I think the one main problem with this philosophy is that it's extremely difficult to start a business from the ground up without some starting capital. You could get a substantial loan but who wants to start a business deep in debt + some individuals wouldn't even be able to acquire one in the first place. I feel that's where poker players have a huge advantage, specifically if you have other like minded friends who you could join with in business down the line.
Also to answer reef's question, I took the degree I did as it was what I found most interesting, I just figured that a good degree from a good university would be worth something. However I then realised I never want to work for someone, and will never be satisfied unless I'm my own boss, which, unless you go the route im eazy is suggesting, is going to be extremely difficult.
Also to answer reef's question, I took the degree I did as it was what I found most interesting, I just figured that a good degree from a good university would be worth something. However I then realised I never want to work for someone, and will never be satisfied unless I'm my own boss, which, unless you go the route im eazy is suggesting, is going to be extremely difficult.
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Well, college for the most part isn't going to hurt someone. But, not going to college definitely can close some doors. Obviously there are exceptions.
Being in debt to start out your early adulthood can be a barrier to certain opportunities. Just following the path to the rat race, can be limiting as well. But, there is no reason someone that went to college, can't still work hard and create business/wealth. However, someone that went to college is going to have a much more difficult time establish a higher quality of life.
there are lots of examples of people who do really well without college, but there are lots of example of people that fail big time too.
I was never a big believer in just going to college because that's what your suppose to do if you're a smart kid from a middle/upper class family. I never understood why many people would get general arts or some equivalent degree when they could just buy those books on amazon and get a much cheaper education and entertain their passions that way.
However, the further removed I get from school, the more I realize it's more about the experience, and learning to learn, than the actually information you absorb.
Being in debt to start out your early adulthood can be a barrier to certain opportunities. Just following the path to the rat race, can be limiting as well. But, there is no reason someone that went to college, can't still work hard and create business/wealth. However, someone that went to college is going to have a much more difficult time establish a higher quality of life.
there are lots of examples of people who do really well without college, but there are lots of example of people that fail big time too.
I was never a big believer in just going to college because that's what your suppose to do if you're a smart kid from a middle/upper class family. I never understood why many people would get general arts or some equivalent degree when they could just buy those books on amazon and get a much cheaper education and entertain their passions that way.
However, the further removed I get from school, the more I realize it's more about the experience, and learning to learn, than the actually information you absorb.
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I went to college, studied an extremely hard major, hated 99% of the academic side of school, and still wouldn't change a thing
I don't think there is necessarily a right answer, some people loved college and wouldn't trade the experience for the world and some would kill themselves before going back. I have loved being a poker pro these last few years, but I am studying to go back to dental school for 4 more years of rape. I've missed the academic environment pretty bad, which really surprised me.
To each his own yo
edit - I also didn't decide to go to college to "learn" or get a high paying job, I went to meet a ton of people, mature a whole lot, and have a good time. i think college is the nuts for those last three goals
I don't think there is necessarily a right answer, some people loved college and wouldn't trade the experience for the world and some would kill themselves before going back. I have loved being a poker pro these last few years, but I am studying to go back to dental school for 4 more years of rape. I've missed the academic environment pretty bad, which really surprised me.
To each his own yo
edit - I also didn't decide to go to college to "learn" or get a high paying job, I went to meet a ton of people, mature a whole lot, and have a good time. i think college is the nuts for those last three goals
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Going to try and make some points i didn't see illustrated when i scanned this thread. I am older and finished my degree before going pro so I have some insight.
Seems like the general consensus is that poker won't be around forever and thats why you need a degree to fall back on. Imo this is why you should drop out now make as much money as possible and travel the world.
Worst case scenario is poker economy ****s out quick and u have to go back to school after making the most of the poker situation(as much money as possible and world travel with spending money at a young age) You can then go back to school reap all of it's lifestyle advantages without a huge gap in employment after u graduate.
One of the biggest advantages yo going to college is meeting really good friends but you already seem to have this in your poker buddies.
Traveling and living with poker friends is >>>>>>> better than chilling with college buddies. Better for you game whether it's talking strategy trading action or encouraging each other to grind.
Let's be honest the value of a college degree is at an all time low. It used to get u a guarantee of a good job no matter your degree and with everyone now getting them and the **** economy you now need a masters to guarantee a good job, and i don't think you can commit to that at this time.(at least that's the way it is here in the states)
*i do not recommend dropping out of school to part time pros unproven winners or low limit grinders
*The scariest scenario is that poker burns out really slowly and you end up with a really tough decision of what to do but the decision is better made then than now for AC
*you already prob f^cked all the girls on your hall willing to shag your filthy bollocks time to move on
Seems like the general consensus is that poker won't be around forever and thats why you need a degree to fall back on. Imo this is why you should drop out now make as much money as possible and travel the world.
Worst case scenario is poker economy ****s out quick and u have to go back to school after making the most of the poker situation(as much money as possible and world travel with spending money at a young age) You can then go back to school reap all of it's lifestyle advantages without a huge gap in employment after u graduate.
One of the biggest advantages yo going to college is meeting really good friends but you already seem to have this in your poker buddies.
Traveling and living with poker friends is >>>>>>> better than chilling with college buddies. Better for you game whether it's talking strategy trading action or encouraging each other to grind.
Let's be honest the value of a college degree is at an all time low. It used to get u a guarantee of a good job no matter your degree and with everyone now getting them and the **** economy you now need a masters to guarantee a good job, and i don't think you can commit to that at this time.(at least that's the way it is here in the states)
*i do not recommend dropping out of school to part time pros unproven winners or low limit grinders
*The scariest scenario is that poker burns out really slowly and you end up with a really tough decision of what to do but the decision is better made then than now for AC
*you already prob f^cked all the girls on your hall willing to shag your filthy bollocks time to move on
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oh doing 2 classes or so a semester can be a really good idea for some so they can have plenty of time to grind but in my experience if you love to travel this just becomes and anchor holding you down to one location. That combined with a lack of work ethic makes this a poor choice for AC because it's difficult to take a class seriously when you are winning or losing many thousands of dollars a day and contemplating traveling the world to harvest it's many bounties.
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even without the social aspect, college is the furthest thing from a regret for me. i came in interested in nothing, came out interested in something (finance stuff) that is directly applicable to my long-term plans (have mad dough and do stuff with it), in addition to any job qualifications i gained from it.
i could have just ordered books and taught myself, but that seems like much bigger torture than going to class every day and having someone smarter than myself teach it to me. in addition, i really love the different views on subjects that had nothing to do with my major. i learned way more than i ever thought i would in racial socialism topics, learned a lot more about my city, became a better writer, and became more marketable to any job i should ever want to work at.
i'm not the smartest person in the world. to say that people should just be able to learn everything on their own is just ridiculous, because most people aren't smart enough and have to have things taught to them. it isn't the most outlandish thing to realize. some of us have to pay for a college education to be able to understand things well enough to make use from that knowledge
i could have just ordered books and taught myself, but that seems like much bigger torture than going to class every day and having someone smarter than myself teach it to me. in addition, i really love the different views on subjects that had nothing to do with my major. i learned way more than i ever thought i would in racial socialism topics, learned a lot more about my city, became a better writer, and became more marketable to any job i should ever want to work at.
i'm not the smartest person in the world. to say that people should just be able to learn everything on their own is just ridiculous, because most people aren't smart enough and have to have things taught to them. it isn't the most outlandish thing to realize. some of us have to pay for a college education to be able to understand things well enough to make use from that knowledge
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this conversation made me think of a quote in a NYT article that came out a few months back. this guy who became an international grandmaster in chess when he was 25 dropped out of the chess world to go back to studying economics at MIT and is currently a prominent economist. in the article, he's quoted as saying, "To this day I get letters, maybe every two years, from top players asking me: ‘How do I quit? I want to quit like you did, and I can’t figure out how to do it,’ ” he says. “I tell them that it’s hard to go from being at the top of a field, because you really feel that way when you’re playing chess and winning, to being at the bottom — and they need to prepare themselves for that."
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