Yes I liked it, as well as liking Casablanca.

How much did you make? Sounds pretty ****ty to be honest.

SL, help me pursue this girl.

She is small and blond and very hot, I'd say like 8.5 or 9. If I walk around all day and see 100 girls around this university, she'd be top 3. She clearly takes good care of her appearance (tans, very good makeup job, dyes her hair), which hurts my chances - typically the girls I get with have natural beauty and don't put in that much effort. The girls that try harder are generally more shallow and want a guy with a body like ILM's. BUT, one thing I have in my favor is that this girl works at a little grocery store, so I'm guessing she is not an arrogant cynt. She might give me a chance, because, after all, she works at a grocery store.

Thus far, my interaction with her has been:

First meeting: I am blown away that such a hot girl is working at the grocery store. But another guy is behind the counter with her. Also there is a line of like 5 people behind me, busy day. I ask her a couple impersonal questions that are kind of funny, she doesn't really react.

Second meeting: I feel and look like ****. I try to make it not memorable and gtfo asap.

My thought is that at the minimum, I need to catch her at the store when it is empty - if there are people in line, she'll look unprofessional in front of the customer she's about to service. If there are other people working, even worse - she'll look unprofessional in front of her co-workers who can give her **** about it.

So at the minimum, I need to get lucky and catch her when it's just us. But then what? How do I go from "That'll be seven dollars and thirty six cents, please" to "That sounds great! Send me a text when you get home!"

It's a long shot, but this is the hottest girl I see regularly and it seems like a waste to not put in the effort.

wait in the parking lot until she gets off and then run up to her shouting "hey! hey cashier girl!". This will get you your "IN". Now that she is interested unbutton the first few buttons on your shirt (you should be wearing a shirt with buttons obv). As she is staring at your chest steal her purse and run off. Find her phone and program your number into it with the name "The Perfect Guy". Hurry up and find her and give the purse back (she will be smiling, so happy you didn't really steal her purse). Wait three days (ldo) and call her.

you're welcome

not helping your cause for bopotm.

lol

I honestly prefer having people (customers) around in spots like this. I like the idea that she sees I am causing somewhat of a "hassle" to try and get the opportunity to talk to her. plus you can always end with some line like "dont wanna make all these ppl wait, hopefully i catch you next time when it's slow". if she is interested she will dying to talk to you next just for the show of confidence and the whole not 'going-right-for-the-number' routine


but i should say i might not be the best at these situations. I don't find myself ever having a problem talking to girls while at work but it's still a little awkward for me and it might show if the particular girl is perceptive enough.

Err this girl probably gets hit on a lot so you prob have to stand out. (Pics of yourself?). It will be better if you say something to her when everyone is around rather than when she is alone, This makes you look more confident and also if you try to hit on her on her own you come across as a creep because you did not try it on with her when everyone was around. Write your number on a piece of paper next time and give it to her next time, while you say "youre to cute to be working here". If she calls you then nh!, If she doesnt then act like nothing happened.

Drunk, going to argue. I trust you look at this post after looking at my prior disagreement over whether religion is the worst thing ever.

You can't argue the quoted point without separating religion from empire. You do not do that. I do not think it is possible to do that. But by anecdote - the largest empire in human history was the British empire. It was founded on arms, trade, capitalism and if you were lucky, democracy.

Dark ages.

Only because that's how we define big religion. They were religious, it's just that their religions lost. Survivor bias is not an argument.

Disagree. Hitler was a Catholic, conventional wisdom aside. Also disagree that because someone did something terrible for an unrelated reason, does not mean that religion is valid. Also disagree about the man with the most deaths on his hands. How many men did God directly/indirectly kill in the old testament? As a proportion of the humans on the planet at the time?

Am going to get in trouble for this bit, but - so? Stupid people are happier than smart people. Accepting easy answers makes you happy. That doesn't give those answers validity. And if we avoid that point - happiness is not necessary to lead a valid life.

Have to /close the quote there.

To have the PROPENSITY to believe, yes. But clearly no genetic component to believing in a specific thing. Doesn't that tell you something?

and what is bopotm?


/noob

Why do the girls that like you like you? If it's because you put in more effort to look good than their typical guy, then yeh, you're probably ****ed. If it's because you're smart/funny/interesting - you have an edge over the guys she normally talks to. I am going to bet that you're the latter.

I want to draw a venn diagram. One circle is "girls who do not care about their appearance". One circle is "girls who do". Then I want the overlap to say "only care about the man's appearance". That overlap is not going to cover the whole diagram.

You can take care of your appearance and have those other qualities. But she is going to be over exposed to the former. You need to show her the latter. You will require a minimum level in the former, but that's all it takes. This is why being a man is better than being a woman.

This is where Henry is good for the thread. He will be pithy and say the same thing. Where's he gone?

Yeah, you do nothing. This is like a development backwards. Dont ask girls out while they work, especially not if they are working at the cashier.

tbh i grunched to the black kid WHOA gif and hadn't read anything else on this page yet. i just rage when i see the fast blackkidwhoa.

is this before or after beating off to sc2?

GcG, you likely already bombed and came off creepy with your lines earlier

gcg where do you live/go to school if you dont mind my asking

ok gonna do a quick update with an old school tr in the middle to help highlight the last bit...

spent all day with the current girl (jenn) yesterday. stayed at her place the night before and can safely say that nothing is going down because of telling her about the message from ex. we are good on that, and seem to be getting more into eachother every time we see eachother which is nice because ive had problems with **** going stale early on when starting to see a new girl. Something that is starting to get weird imo is that jenn keeps bringing up the night i was downtown with a bunch of friends and there was a misunderstanding about me being into this girl katie. well apparently katie has asked jenn about me and saying that she likes me but doesnt know how to tell me. the hard part here is that they are both good friends, and i am also pretty good friends with katie. i had some miniscule thought that she might like me but honestly never really cared because ive never been into her, but without jenn telling her that we are now dating it will just snowball and im worried about possibly breaking up friendships here. i mean, i want to just out and tell her...after all the same night she thought i was saying that i liked her she ended up sleeping with my best friend so w/e. Pretty sure she wont be devastated at this point.


The last part of the update requires a brief TR:



jenn brings up erica and asks if i ever had sex with her that night at my condo. I say no and she looks skeptically at me. I remind her that katie is a huge gossip and that it would have gotten out if i did bang her. she seems satisfied, and asks me if i knew that erica was obsessed with me still. wait...WHAT?!?!? Jenn assured me that if she called up erica right now and told her that she is going to a bar and TBob will be there, that erica would get there before we did. i mean, the girl had my number, chances to go see my band, knew where i worked and where i lived, had access to facebook and i never had her say anything at all to me...and the night i did see her after that she was a dick to me! so that was just very weird and now i find myself in a hilarious situation where i am dating one of a 3-girl group of close friends and only jenn has any clue of wtf is going on. i honestly dont see any of this blowing up in a bad way...probably just more lollz. ill be sure to update if anything funny goes down

GCG,

I'm very hesitant to give you advice, because your general defense mechanism is to a) take a personal shot back and b) accuse me of trolling, but I think I'll try and say tactfully what others have been infracted for saying in insulting terms ITT:

You seem to lack the social cognizance to realize that the actions you undertake and dialogue you engage in are not socially appropriate and make girls feel uncomfortable. You break social norms, but not in a good way and it is setting you up for failure each time. You don't have the necessary social perception at this point to realize when you are engaging in such behavior and to identify and engage in the appropriate social doctrines. In short, when you break these social "rules" in the manner which you have chosen to do so, you make people feel very uncomfortable and question your motives and general sanity. This is not a good way to attract women.

I'm not quite sure what the appropriate social doctrine is myself when constantly cold approaching women (as I don't do this), so I can't help you. Perhaps someone else can, but the problem is obvious. It's something many posters have tried to point out to you, but usually using inappropriate and tactless language, so it goes ignored as trolling. I assure you this is neither of the above. Many people ITT have tried to tell you this, and I hope you finally pay attention so you don't get so frustrated all the time.

Perhaps you engage in this behavior because you believe, physically, you are attractive enough for whatever reason to get away with it. I'm not a good judge of male attractiveness so I can't really opine on it, but I'm going to assume at this point that isn't the case. As you yourself have identified, there are really no other outwardly obvious qualities (such as money to buy really nice clothes, or go to certain establishments, or cite a certain occupation, etc.) which would also render you immune from such conversation. I don't know at this point. I'm simply guessing. All I know is it's not working for a clear reason.

He undoubtedly minds.

@tboblp

erica- has liked you this whole time
katie- never liked you but now that you're into jenn she's sabotaging for the attention

if you're hoping to get serious with jenn i would have told her that you didn't have sex with erica but you did get head. if you're just planning on hooking up/maybe casually dating then you played it fine.

yea im aware now that erica has liked me the whole time, but honestly not sure about your prediction about katie. we almost hooked up a long time ago but nothing since then and she has no idea that jenn and i are seeing eachother. jenn does know that erica gave me head, her asking if we had sex was in the way of "i heard you and erica fooled around that night....did you have sex too?", just kinda reassuring herself that all katie or erica told her is the whole truth.

as far as whether im hoping to get serious or be casual, im really unsure at the moment because i would like things in my life to be a liiiiiittle bit more stable before going for something serious but this girl is just so chill and fun and understanding that i think she's happy with whatever im able to give right now as well. she is def not a casual hook-up type, not in who she is or how i view her. I wouldnt want that.

This is a good and accurate post. Of course, you may have already realized that I would think this, since Karak and I are identical.

what the **** happened? we go from religion to tldr's and (presumably) deleted posts and fast whoakids and now gcg is a creep? thats about the gist?

I'm confused about the deleted posts too. They must have been pretty over-the-top and bad to cause Karak to be doling out infractions.