On that note... am the only one here who only ever cleans his room when there's a strong possibility of a girl coming over and never any other time?

I do too.

That is extremely standard. I also do that with the whole apartment too.

About the whole exes thing. I'm only friends with one ex that I dated in HS and we broke up when she went away to college (but I don't talk to her that often). As Karak said, there is really no reason to be friends with them, especially recently after a breakup. There are tons of other cool girls to be friends with, without any emotional aspects.

how bad do you let it get? like if it starts nearing swamp abyss level, do you clean it at that point or still wait for girl motivation?

yeah. i mean if you are in a mutual social situation where she's unavoidable, then obviously being open and friendly is far superior to being bitter and looking ******ed, but if you dont have to talk to her or see her, why do it? especially since many of us don't have the henry-esque emotional detachment necessary to simply snap get over a breakup.

my ex left another guy (bf of 4 years) for me, and about 6 months after she and i got together (and thus after their breakup) he sent her a big tl; dr emo email about how sorry he was for not talking to her and for not making any attempt to be her friend after the break up and that it was just hard for him. he didn't even do anything bitter or rude. she asked me what i thought of it and told me how nice she thought it was, and my blunt reply was that he had nothing to apologize for and had done nothing wrong.

i actually felt really bad for this guy (not a bad dude at all... really nice person). he was the one pushing marriage with this chick, and she left him for me pretty abruptly (seriously this is a fantastic story if you ever want to hear it). he wasn't in any of my classes, but he was in the same building as me for a lot of the school day and definitely knew who i was. he also lived in a neighborhood just one block over from mine and i'd pretty often walk past him to/from school (never said anything).

one day only like 1-2 months after the break up, she and i were walking home from school back to my house holding hands when a bike passed us on the street 3 feet to our left... it was him. he had to have been coming down the sidewalk (you cant cross the street easily) behind us for at least 100 yards and it was unmistakably her and i.

a few weeks later she was leaving my house early in the morning after spending the night, and i see him biking by to go to school and he looks over just in time to see us leaving the house. **** like this happened all the time. i dont know how the guy didn't kill himself/me.

apparently he also started doing a lot of drugs, and his mother one time after the break up showed up at my ex's parents house (for a different purpose facially) in tears sobbing about how she had lost her son and he had lost his faith and was doing drugs and how she missed my ex's family, etc. etc.. it was really awkward, and my ex's mom was trying everything she could to get the lady to leave without feeling terrible.

this girl has, could you say, a nose for drama.

I can't stand having a messy room so I keep it clean on a daily basis and always make my bed lol

im not sure the "ask a girl out" thread is the one you are looking for, sir.

lol I knew the ygos? type jokes would come fast.

No, I don't let it get bad. But I also convince myself that a girl could be coming back quite often, even though in reality I just always go to the girl's place (and it's not often, lol).

That's messed up. I would start doing drugs if I were that guy too.

i had the "are you sure he isn't a violent person?" talk with her more than once

Ahahaha. That's when you should think about carrying.

lol and our parking lot was prominently placed along a busy intersection, so it's like we threw the bat signal up anytime she was there or spending the night... you'd clearly see her car sitting there as you drove by, and there's no other way to go.

the worst was when i'd see him by myself... i mean i see him on the sidewalk whatever i just pretend to be texting or just look at the sky and it's fine, but one day i was walking down a long, thin hallway in one of the older academic buildings that was completely deserted other than me... and then he is coming the other way (minding his own business, not stalking me or anything), and he looks up, sees me, and turns green. it was the longest most awkward walk of my life. i honestly didn't even feel cocky or arrogant or anything; i legit felt trbl for the guy. breaking off a 4 year relationship is the hardest thing in the world, but having to see the guy your gf is now with every day (especially when he's a fat **** like i was back then) had to make it so much worse.

if i had been in the same situation after she broke up with me last year, i'm pretty sure i would have had to move or something. that would just be brutally painful to deal with.

kind of funny that she just continually flew through life putting guys in this situation (there was one even before the one before me), and she always found it hard to understand as she was never dumped and never single (seriously and literally never single aside from a matter of hours in every circumstance), and i guess never will have to find out what that feels like. it's like dying without tasting death! there was a george lopez show episode about this.

Sooo no advice?

you're pretty much freerolling your first time. as far as advice goes, put it inside her, pull it out a little, repeat.

I don't even clean my room for girls. Its an "organized mess", and I like it that way.

Also, its possible to have a long-term relationship, and be planning marriage, and still be friends with ex's.
Though, it greatly depends on the people, I have a friend whose been through this scenario and always seems to be able to keep his exes as good friends

how is this a freeroll? She prob doesnt think its my first time and we like eachother shouldnt sexual chemistry be important in a relationship? If i suck its pretty much gg isnt it?

yeah pretty standard.

and yet, girls always compliment me on my clean room. it always seems odd to me, like ofc my room is clean i'm trying to bang you ldo...are there guys out there that really jdgaf?

also, virgin,

worry less, **** more. post about it after.

ps GG i missed you, do post tr of this girl that's stopping in tonight

side note:

i was just in the ban user panel taking care of some business and saw LKJ has 17 hours left. start the countdown.

for full disclosure: virginobv was banned cause he was an alt for a bunch of other accounts which were perma'd by other mods for other reasons.

@ virgin--

no

but we wanna hear about his first secksors.

Not happening. He's banned and it was soooo obviously a gimmick account that it hurt.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aao8GO5A8Mc#t=0m15s

just pay attention to her and what she likes, if she has any experience she probably will help you out(possibly, some girls do some don't)