I still lean towards normal guy with no filter not giving a **** what a bunch of guys on the internet think.

People nitpick and argue because of lack or TRs please post.

I follow the thread pretty closely. I think you nitpick him pretty hard but he also does get way too defensive for people giving constructive criticism.

lkj, great choice of images to make it clear how insane the peggy > joan crowd is

Thank you.

MM spoiler

just started watching mad men so i feel i can now weigh in. How the hell can anyone find peggy attractive is beyond my scope of comprehension. It's mind bottling actually.

I said it before, I'll say it again: I bet she kisses with a ton of gratitude. Points for that.

Peggy is attractive in the sense that she's clearly not some airhead crazy girl, but actually thinks her way through the day and kind of half understands what's going on in a man's (Don, mostly) mind. Ish.

Wow I went to do some life trolling and this got nasty. That was completely uncalled for.

Yeah, I don't totally see Peggy as devoid of attractiveness as some seem to, but it's only on rare occasion here and there that I find myself digging her at all.

Also I think she (the character) needs to get over herself since she clearly thinks she's better than the other girls who haven't worked her way up and it was a total lucky accident that her "basket of kisses" thing somehow propelled her career to unexpected heights.

I've seen one episode which is where I'm drawing my opinions from.

GCG is officially invited to Henry/Mittens/Thremp Meetup Part 2 this fall (and I'm re-inviting myself ldo).

Yeah, I actually just rewatched the first episode the other day and she looks pretty hideous in that. She gets better at times. (She actually honestly gets worse than that at times.)

but if this a real thing, I need a date chosen quickly (mid Oct or later).

I strongly support a second meet-up. I still feel I ****ed up the last one and want a second shot.

Going to go back and read the posts I missed as I was too pissed at GcG's attack to remember if there was anything I was suppose to address.

I deleted what I wrote. Then got a PM asking for it. Wrote a ****ty rushed version of it because I had to be somewhere at 6pm. Don't like the rushed version and not sure if I feel like putting the effort into writing a good version.

It was one of two things. The second one though is the reason I can't write the TR because it is fairly identifying

The guy I have been talking about was a student. He worked at the same time as going to school. His spending was close to what I quoted. Likely 20-25% less and yes it is hard but he had savings from working and having no life before and his spending to income level was unacceptable by any financial planners opinion but he managed to do it.

People under estimate how easy it is to make money if you just work hard. Take the number of hours a typical guy spends playing video games or watching TV and multiply it by $14.

anyone else find it funny that peggy is a bigger slut than any of the other female chars

Bolded is something I really wanna work on asap. At this point while going to school I'm gonna try and still wokr 40 hours a week if not more. Gonna start saving a lot

I guess it depends a lot on workload/classes, but I'm doing engineering as well as running a fairly time consuming student group and doing research (some money but like 3k a semester total).

If you had a light workload I could imagine being able to do that but in my experience piling a standard job on top of what I already do would just make me burn out. I've already started to feel it this summer working on 3 research project (some lighter than others)+student group has just sapped all motivation/energy from me.

It may be worse in engineering because the burn out factor is so high but I can't imagine trying to work close to full time and do all the **** I'll have to do next year. I understand I'm not a standard case but you can see how time can be taken up by things other than watching tv/video games for someone in college.

Also $14/hour*40hours*4weeks=$2240 a month, still would be cutting it close, especially if you need to pay for things like rent or food.

Again, clearly his situation was somewhat unique, just saying that there are plenty of kids, likely the majority, for whom this is just no feasible to do under any circumstance.

an extra 2240 a month is a lot of money, assuming you plan on eating and paying rent anyway thats all spending cash. One of my only regrets in college is spending so much time dicking around in my room just watching tv or browsing 2p2, even if I worked just 10 hours a week at the rec center or bookstore I could have come out after my 7 semesters with over 10K more than I have now.

$14/hour is easier said than done to get. I was making a lower hourly than that at a desk job at BP after graduating undergrad (at first anyway; more than that after my first raise).

If we're talking about students, plenty of the only jobs available are going to pay easily less than $14.

agree 14 is a stretch for a student, 10-12 more reasonable at least to start

Yeah 14 an hour would be awesome right now, and would enable to me stash away a lot of money this year since I live with a roommate.

but I dicked around way way too much last year and look back and wish i would have worked like 10-20 hours some where

Im pretty sure all the on campus jobs and any other jobs I could get around school pay minimum wage which is like 7.25 before tax right?

Depends on what state you're in.

furyshade,

I built in a decent about of extra room because I like to be certain when I say something. Most guys could do it for less. Some would need more. I went with a safe number with a good safety margin.

LKJ,

The minimum wage here is $10.25 so $14 is pretty standard. The only jobs that pay $10.25 are coffee shop attendants and maybe Walmart and that is if you are new. It wouldn't be hard to get $16-20/hr for some physical work. Even waitstaff that have a lower minimum wage make good money -- a female sever will make $22+/hr and since most of it is cash they don't pay tax on. I figure males make less but not much less.

That is also likely overstating my numbers because Canada pays very well at the low end and then pays much less to professionals.