dude just set up something like mittens said and then the number is just a consequence of that. if you can't smoothly set something up with her, then her number would likely be worthless anyway. because you are talking to her pretty often, it's easy to direct the conversation in the direction of making a plan to go to [some place]. her having the profile pic doesn't bode well for you tho...if she was thinking of pursuing you srsly, she'd not have that, unless the bf has some odd jealousy issue and he'd make a big deal out of her changing it.

here's smthg i've been running into lately: i interact with lots of ppl each day (ldo). i tr my nights out, but often have little situations during the day which i don't tr. there are like 3 or 4 girls this week that i've had interactions with (they're not working, just around town) and they are really friendly to me. open body language and genuine smiles. not like a tight lipped "i'm being polite smile" but an "i enjoy your company" smile. if i'm good at all at reading emotion expressions, one girl had this kinda shy smile and it seems very likely she liked me, like she was kinda nervous and excited.

my question is, with these girls that i only interact with briefly (say 15 minutes) and then we have to go along our merry way to the next thing, and there isn't enough time to really get talking about some specific thing, how can i, in a non-weird, non-creepy way, suggest we hang out? i feel like it's easy at bars cause everyone is there to meet ppl. but i feel like there are a lot of girls i see during the day that might be into me, but i'll never know cause i can't figure out a good way to transition into us hanging out some other time, and i don't wanna be inappropriately forward in case i'm wrong.

1) age
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100) She might have a bf
101) You work together

Two points:

1) There's no way I feel comfortable helping a 23 year old pick up a high school girl. If you're a reasonable person, you should feel far less comfortable being that 23 year old.

2) You seriously need help picking up a 17 year old after 23 years on this earth?

I have no idea which of your posts or which parts of your posts are real anymore.

Then my descent into madness is complete.

No but actually that post was serious. As I was writing about the smiles I was thinking oh **** I'm gonna get laughed at for this. Sure it sounds silly after that one time I fell in love w that girls' smile and went on and on abt it. But really, how do you know if a girl likes you? If she is drunk or very open, she'll start touching you. But most girls, even if they think a guy is cute and would wanna date him, wouldn't do very much if it was just a short time. The first signals are the facial expressions - a smile. The thing is, lots of guys think a girl being friendly = the girl likes him. I'm sure I'm sometimes guilty of that. But my point in describing her smile was to try to show that she had given me reason to believe she actually was into me, cause she wasn't just smiling and being nice.

Does that make sense?

was a v. until 21. trying to catch up.

i think 22/18 is not really taboo

in what situations are you talking to girls for 15 minutes, getting receptive signals and then going different ways?

like random people who you stop on the street/mall/coffee shop/waiting in line etc?

gcg I give you credit for actually interacting with a lot of people every day. If it weren't for work right now, I would rarely interact with many people other than the gym or if I were to hang out with friends. My question is what kind of places are these interactions taking place and what kind of stuff are you talking about?
(srs not trying to troll you, I need help getting out of the house other than the gym on free days)

If Henry was around, he'd tell you to stop interacting with people at the gym.

the thing is I rarely talk to anyone at the gym lol

I mean, it makes sense, but I guess (and this honestly isn't an attempt to be insulting) the reality is that it's difficult for me and undoubtedly others who read your posts to have much faith in your reads on subtleties such as smiles. Just too many stories where you talk about girls seeming to obviously be into you and then the situation blows up for no apparent reason. That's where a lot of negative assumptions come from about what you're like when you're out on the town. When you're just reading their faces in friendly interactions, and you think the smile is an "interested" smile...I have my doubts, that's all.

Just an editorial comment. I'll let wsopmichael try to coach you on day gaming, because I don't have the first clue.

GCG,

"there are like 3 or 4 girls this week that i've had interactions with (they're not working, just around town) and they are really friendly to me. open body language and genuine smiles. not like a tight lipped "i'm being polite smile" but an "i enjoy your company" smile. if i'm good at all at reading emotion expressions, one girl had this kinda shy smile and it seems very likely she liked me, like she was kinda nervous and excited."

They are just being polite.

Hey GcG, post back here with results of this test:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/humanbo...e=2&programme=

That was an interesting exercise. I got 15/20.

16/20

El D,

That's what I usually fall back on. But haven't you ever met a woman and, within a minute of meeting her, decided you would date her? Have you blatantly telegraphed interest every time? Do you not believe that a woman may be interested in a guy, but only indicate it very subtly due to feeling shy/embarrassed/unsure of herself?

At what point do you interpret a woman's actions as being more than just friendly?

Will take test in a bit.

16, and two of the ones i missed were the two i was least confident about.

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15/20

wtf is this a hallmark movie?


got 18 on the test fwiw, ugly people participated. one of the 2 i got wrong i pushed the play button too early on and missed the smile because it was not very big.

lol just saw this:

starcraft geek pick up attempts

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcNE3...layer_embedded

GCG,

I have definitely met girls and had a super spark/chemistry from the get go. And that always leads to something.

The reason you are likely wrong about your assessment is that you've shown a consistent pattern of being really bad at reading people's body language, interest levels, attraction, etc throughout all of your anecdotes in this thread and the EDF thread. That, combined with the fact that you just went your separate ways after a brief interaction, means the most likely explanation by far here is that you are once again completely wrong at reading the signals.

How in the hell are these guys actually getting these girls' numbers

I got 18/20 on the test, both of the ones I got wrong were guys.