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10-12-2012 , 03:20 PM
Please explain how a random motivational video has anything to do with deciding to go on a career path that requires a very specific skillset that OP is unlikely to have.
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10-12-2012 , 03:56 PM
wtf are you talking about? he was beating hu sngs before bf hit. since he was at college it would have been harder to put all his efforts into poker because he had school work to also concentrate on (He said so himself). I believe if he goes pro it would give him more incentive to work harder on his game. I think its harsh that you just write him off because he made only 50k in 4 years. all im saying is the economy is **** now and i don't see anything wrong with him pursuing poker for now, maybe he will find another passion one day and try to pursue that.
10-12-2012 , 03:59 PM
and the motivational video talks about 'risk', if op decides to take the risk and go pro and works really hard at live cash and studys a lot or whatever, i dont see why he cant grind up to 5/10/,25/50 and take shots at bigger mtts.
10-12-2012 , 04:05 PM
I'm just repeating what I've previously said before, but:

1) pre and post BF games are different
2) His sample size is meaningless
3) The sample that he accumulated is what pros would play in a month
4) Yes, it's reasonable to write someone off that has made 12.5k/year whether they were in school or not. There are people that get SNE that are in school, and playing 20-30 hour weeks while in full time school is really not that hard. That is at least 4000 hours in that time period. There is also little evidence that OP is as passionate about poker as you think he is.
10-16-2012 , 12:35 AM
Anyone have any experience with Robert Half Accountemps? I have an interview on Friday with them. I've done a little googling and found nothing but bad reviews. They basically find you some temporary projects and then take a huge cut, paying people close to minimum wage. People at all locations have nothing good to say about them. Should I even bother with them? Maybe it will give me good experience but at the cost of them treating me like ****.
10-16-2012 , 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by GAYEST_MAN
Anyone have any experience with Robert Half Accountemps? I have an interview on Friday with them. I've done a little googling and found nothing but bad reviews. They basically find you some temporary projects and then take a huge cut, paying people close to minimum wage. People at all locations have nothing good to say about them. Should I even bother with them? Maybe it will give me good experience but at the cost of them treating me like ****.
It's a recruiter/job placer so they will get you into a job but they take a cut. Since u have no experience, u don't have much leverage to negotiate a good rate.

Everyone hates recruiters, but they are just trying to get a paycheck themselves. People think that a recruiters job is to find them a job but when it comes time to pay for their services, people get offended by the price. Talking from a recruiter's POV here
11-22-2012 , 07:05 AM
OP, what is your current BR? I played the 2-3-5 and 5-5-10 game today at M8trix while waiting and the games were even softer at 2-3-5 and 5-5-10 (Granted super small sample size).


I decided to take a shot because I figured I was young and I have my whole life ahead of me to work, but probably only one chance to take a chance at this career choice. I played in LA for 2 years and Las Vegas for at least half year now and counting too if you want to discuss your possible options.
11-23-2012 , 02:33 PM
What's your BR? That is an important factor.
11-23-2012 , 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by GAYEST_MAN
Anyone have any experience with Robert Half Accountemps? I have an interview on Friday with them. I've done a little googling and found nothing but bad reviews. They basically find you some temporary projects and then take a huge cut, paying people close to minimum wage. People at all locations have nothing good to say about them. Should I even bother with them? Maybe it will give me good experience but at the cost of them treating me like ****.
A temp job is better than no job. Lets you build a resume, networking, experience, etc.
11-23-2012 , 06:35 PM
20k for live poker. 25k in the bank
11-23-2012 , 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by GAYEST_MAN
20k for live poker. 25k in the bank

I think that is a good BR for 2-3-5 and 5-5-10 mix. Although the 5-5-10 plays much bigger than a regular 5-10 I think.

If I decided to try to play as a pro with that BR, I would grind 2-3-5, well regularly taking a 100bb shot at the 5-5-10 games on busy busy days. Once your roll hits 40k, play that 5-5-10 game regularly and take calculated shots occasionally at 10-25, probably on Fridays.

The reason is this:

I think a 10k BR is enough for a winning player to grind 2-3-5 (which it seems you are)
11-24-2012 , 12:24 AM
job man
11-24-2012 , 03:14 AM
While I believe you to be a winner, the money is not big enoguh.

Basically it comes down to this: you make good money for a student, but not good for normal workers. Your odds are that yoru income will go down, nto up (unless major change in legislation).

Yet, you have good education and can get a decent career. Do that. If you get a good job and keep playing at night, and make it and start wining 20k+/month (wouldn't quit work for less) consistently, then move on. The thing is, work will see your income go up and there is NO variance in working. There is a lot of variance in poker. The value of having no variance is BIG when you have to pay for food, rent, wife, kids, etc.

Poker seems cool when 22, and I loved it when I was in college, but the reality is that making 20k in ONE month is not the same as pulling 5k EVERY month, stable, NO variance.
11-26-2012 , 06:15 AM
A lot of people are saying getting job is secure and income will always increase in the long run. I'm not going to disagree with that, but how many people actually make 100k at their career peak? Sometimes when I'm browsing jobs, I see jobs requiring many years if experience and only pay about 80k. 80k is great, but I would have to have sacrificed years to get up to that amount. I feel like I have not learned anything in college and that 100k salary would be very difficult to obtain. I would probably need to have a lot of skills and experience and probably go to grad school. Also we all know that no job is 100% secure. People get laid off a lot especially in this economy.

I feel like I can make 80k fairly easy right now (probably more soon since I'm planning to move up in stakes soon) in 2/5 with pretty low swings and stress. If I were to pursue poker full-time, I would try to save A LOT in my first few years. I'm pretty frugal and live below my means regularly. I would want to save and invest probably 500k my first few years before I make any significant decisions (get married, buy house, start business). After that I would feel pretty stable.

My biggest concern right now is the resume gap. Does the 6 month gap really exist? Even if I don't go the poker route, I really want to just grind out a few months to a year to make 100k+ so I don't feel as broke grinding in the office for 15/hr. I feel like once I start working, I will be stuck working as a slave for the "the man" .

3 more weeks till school is over. No job yet even if I wanted. Anyways, those are just my thoughts right now.
11-26-2012 , 03:09 PM
$80k includes like $10k benefits + yearly bonus + work friends.
11-26-2012 , 05:49 PM
80k a year plus benefits sounds like a top of your career salary, unless you have a highly technical and rare skill.. School is important, but you finished and that can be a sort of safety net.

You've already proven you can beat the game and it seems like you have the discipline to be financially smart with your money.

One personal question though, do you have any leaks like table games, sports betting, hookers & blow, etc? Because if you do, get rid of it now. If not don't let it even start. Can't tell you how much money I would've saved starting out lol.
11-26-2012 , 06:54 PM
I'm pretty nitty when it comes to life spending. No hookers and blow, I don't watch sports, I've played table games maybe 4 times and up 300.

I know benefits play a part in salary and I hear some places pay up to 30% of salary in benefits, but how much is 20k in benefits really worth to me? Of course I need health insurance, dental, and I don't get paid for me sick and vacation, but I feel I can make better decisions. That 20k in benefits will probably only mean 10k to me. Work friends don't sound too bad lol.
11-26-2012 , 07:11 PM
Poker friends are pretty awesome too, you can always regale tales of bad beats. Lol
11-27-2012 , 07:35 AM
are you asian?
11-27-2012 , 04:15 PM
Yes. Does it make a difference lol
11-27-2012 , 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by GAYEST_MAN
Yes. Does it make a difference lol

+1



going to m8trix today?
11-27-2012 , 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by harborlaw387
+1



going to m8trix today?
nah I have to finish a project today and tomorrow with a classmate. I'll probably be there thurs, fri, and maybe sat.
11-29-2012 , 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by GAYEST_MAN
Yes. Does it make a difference lol

Don't you know? Asians are huge gamblers. I think at least 20% of the money I've won in poker is from being Asian I **** you not. LOL.
11-29-2012 , 05:25 PM
OP it seems like your mind was made up a long time ago, it seems like you came to this thread to convince yourself that poker was the path to choose. If you feel so strongly about giving poker a chance then so be it, just remember, everyday that passes while youre playing poker your resume looks worse and worse to prospective employers.

I think you should give poker a run for a year TOPS, and if youre not making a justifiable income then you need to actively look for a job fast.
11-29-2012 , 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by LimpDitka
OP it seems like your mind was made up a long time ago, it seems like you came to this thread to convince yourself that poker was the path to choose. If you feel so strongly about giving poker a chance then so be it, just remember, everyday that passes while youre playing poker your resume looks worse and worse to prospective employers.

I think you should give poker a run for a year TOPS, and if youre not making a justifiable income then you need to actively look for a job fast.
I think youre kind of right. In the back of my mind I always wanted to play poker. I guess I was just scared of getting a job after college because I kind of knew that I wasn't going to end up with any type of good job and just not be successful. The reason I started this thread was to try and have people persuade me from playing poker full time.

Right now I think I'm going to play fulltime for maybe a few months. After that I'll probably try and find some part-time finance position to fill in my resume gap(anyone any jobs for part-time finance?) and play poker the rest of the time. A few months or a year after that I really want to travel around the developed parts of Asia for a few months since I've heard so many awesome things about it. I'll reevaluate my life after that.
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