Would love y'all's help pondering this one.

I don't play WSOPc much due to equity; my time is usually more valuable in cash games or elsewhere. I just luckboxed a ring at Caesars and thus have 50 points.

How many points do I need to qualify for the National Championship? I think these are last year's numbers, looks like ~75 did the trick?

http://www.wsop.com/circuit/2011-leaderboard.asp

How much is my equity in the National Championship? Considering it's a $10k no rake 100 man freezeout, with TV time, in the year that may be the 2nd poker boom.

Therefore, considering that I need one 5th place finish or better to have 75 points, what should my plan be? How hard is it worth pursuing, considering that traveling to the middle of nowhere is going to cost $ and time and equity in other endeavors?

Scoring rules

Thanks for your time and thoughts.

Last year a couple of people with 100 points didn't get in... I think you needed 102.5 (or 105) to be guaranteed in.

edit: your link is to this year's list.. as of right now 75 points gets u in...

This depends on how much money you have atm and how much free time you have. If you have a 5k roll and tons of bills Id say its not worth it. If you have a 100k roll and dont have to worry about bills etc Id say go for it.

Did someone say the WSOPC NC is airing on TV?

Also, there's the chance that the top 100 players from the past two years on the WSOP/WSOPE will be eligible to buy in for $10,000.

Is this top 100 list posted anywhere?

The WSOP World Rankings were supposed to be posted in November. Either they dropped the idea, or waiting until the NC is closer and then release the list.

In another thread, it appears the National Championship will take place during the WSOP.

Last years point system was totally different. I looked into this same thing because I recently played a couple of events and made deep runs/have some points too. Unfortunately for me... school gets in the way. Anyway, there were like 30 at large qualifiers last year and more seats given away for deep runs in the main.. etc. I think everyone who FT'd a circuit ($10k regional main) got a seat into the national championship last year.

Basically, my point is that 70-80 points that was good for 66th or whatever last year didn't qualify those people for the tournaments because there were less at large births. (The scoring system has also changed I believe). My main point is that looking at last years list isn't going to be that helpful. Anyway, good luck if you go for it, I hope I've been helpful.

Do u know who OP is?

I think the qualifications have changed a bit allowing some to buy in as Kevmath stated. Of course that doesn't change the freeroll component. But I think Ari is correct that ~105 gets you in based on last years system.

Here is last year's

http://www.wsop.com/circuit/2010-leaderboard.asp

Only thing keeping me from going to all the rest of them is lost equity and time from home.

Is there a chance this isn't a TV event?

If I could buy in directly I would gladly. Going to be tough for me to make that list though. 102.5 is guaranteed qualification? That means some guy is going to get in with less, what's that number?

I think that it will take 70-80 points.
90 is almost an absolute lock.

Having no $10k regionals makes a huge difference.
-More at large qualifiers. Last year 36 people from $10k FTs all qualified.
-Less total points available. Last year a min cash in a $10k regional was
worth 100 points.


If you want to grind just for points I would recommend Rincon. Small fields compared to other stops. Not much else going for it down there, but if you don't mind the commute big cash games at Commerce are only 1-1.5 hours away.

Im not so sure 70-80 is a lock....i have 77.5 + gnna make a push for 120, but i have no life. Bryan, i had 100 pts last yr + jus missed, im not missing a free 10k seat again. U run good in Rincon, take the bike there, its a fantastik ride . Also, Council Bluffs is as weak as it gets . Gl ....

This seems like a good line. Just win another ring to be safe, though.

I agree very strongly with all of this. I don't want to entirely base this years "goal" on last years results (small sample bias), but under this year's system, 72.5 points would've gotten you in last year (this is done eliminating people that got points for the now non-existent $10k events). Figuring in the fact that more people are aware of the freeroll this year + there are 12 ring events per stop instead of 10 - lesser points for making a $1500 final table, I think 80 is a good number to shoot for.

- 80 will give you a very good chance to get in.
- 90 is a virtual lock.

Traveling to Rincon or Philly - where the fields will be small and good cash games are close by is probably your best move.

With no 10ks the entire qualifying criteria will change.

I hate when people don't even bother reading the thread before they reply.

Isn't this the event that Sam Barnhardt won last year? Was it televised? If so can anyone provide link(s) to the episodes? Who is filming it this year? And why is it so difficult to get a hold of these "WSOP World Rankings"? Weren't they supposed to be provided by Effel and WSOP last November?

When is the last tournament series that qualifies? Need 25+ pts probably (50 so far)

New Orleans May 10-21
http://www.wsop.com/schedule/wsopcircuit.asp

+1 on it taking 90 pts to qualify this season. That's what I overheard Nolan Dalla tell someone at Caesars. Nothing is guaranteed, but that seems like a reasonable target. Keep in mind that there are 2 more stops this year compared to last, so take that into consideration when looking back at last year's final points. I haven't been following the Circuit numbers, but it wouldn't surprise me if there's also been an increase in players this year now that more peeps know about the National Championship freeroll.

Don't know if you're aiming for LAPC and Shooting Star, but if you are then your next option for WSOP-C is Rincon. Since that's fairly convenient for you, I'd say it's worth a shot if you have time to play a few events. If you bink a ring, you're done, or if you pick up 20 or 30 points then you could re-evaluate if it's worth it to travel to one of the other stops to lock in a spot. Personally, I'd want to commit to playing at least 8 or 10 more events before I felt like I had any equity with your current points. So I wouldn't let it be a big factor at this stage.

FWIW, the Cardinals home opener is on the 2nd day of the WSOP-C series there... if you could use another reason to travel to St. Louis.

Seems like firing everything at Rincon and going from there is the best play. Thanks guys.

i like your chances there....i won 2 mtts and ft the main there when it was a $5k, how fkn hard can those fields be???

So, with 5 events left to go in Rincon, I have acquired 40 points, bringing my total to 90. If 80 was our target, am I good now? Can I say **** it and go surfing tomorrow or should I be playing in 10 hours and thinking about sweating points in the home stretch?

Sincerely appreciate all the help you have been.

imo... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OsTUnkqSi4

Actually though, if I was at 90, I'd probably go ahead and try to bink off 5 more points, I think that'd put you at 98% or better to qualify. My best guess is you're like 90% to 95% right now with your total, looking at the leaderboard and considering remaining events. Also depends on how tilted you would be if you end up just missing the freeroll.

I'm at 92.5 and I feel locked, fwiw.

I'm the type that would want more of a cushion, but as noted above it depends on whether or not you'd be able to shrug if off if you ended up 1 point shy of the freeroll.

You're probably safe, though, and you could always consider hopping on a flight to New Orleans in mid-May if you happened to slide down to the edge of getting in.