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02-10-2010 , 02:33 AM

#801

kk405

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Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 5,444

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Originally Posted by Cop307

Tab,

Any chances of seeing a flatter payout structure. I know you have an equal number of people who like top heavy payouts, but I think that the last spot should get at least 2-21/2 of the initial buy-in back. This includes tournaments during the winter, summer and fall open.

In December at Harrah's, 18th place in the $1500 paid just under 5k (top 18 got paid). It still left 51k for first. Though that was a little over the top, it made it more satisfying grinding it out for 2 days.

What people need to remember, the reason tournaments were so top heavy was there weren't as many to play back in the day as there are now. Now there are many more opportunities for people to make some significant cashes if the payouts were flatter.

Especially considering the economy, a flatter payout structure could keep the players coming back. With a flatter structure, a min cash in an earlier event will allow them to buy in to several more events.

Interesting payout ratios...

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02-10-2010 , 02:43 AM

#802

Damon Rutherford

grinder

Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 556

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Originally Posted by Cop307

I respect your opinion, but please don't make the payouts flatter. I like them just as they are.

Bringing SNG's back to the main tournament room though -- now that I could support.

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02-10-2010 , 07:08 PM

#803

Ruler of the East

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Originally Posted by Matt Savage

Won't be the first time Tab and Stan scheduled over me or the last unfortunately

You should talk!!!

Stan

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02-10-2010 , 08:08 PM

#804

TAB

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Originally Posted by Ruler of the East

You should talk!!!

Stan

Uh Oh

Theres 3000 miles between us...I think we'll survive our schedule conflicts.

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02-10-2010 , 08:12 PM

#805

TAB

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Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,515

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cop307

Tab,

One other side note: In September, do you intend on bringing the SNG's back into the main tournament room. I found myself only playing one this last trip compared to the 10-12 I usually play. The main room creates such a better atmosphere not to mention being able to keep tabs on friends playing in the regular tournaments.

We will be looking into this...anyone that wants to chime in on the SNG upstairs vs downstairs debate, please do so.

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02-10-2010 , 09:43 PM

#806

Ruler of the East

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Originally Posted by TAB

We will be looking into this...anyone that wants to chime in on the SNG upstairs vs downstairs debate, please do so.

I vote for upstairs.

Stan

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02-10-2010 , 09:44 PM

#807

Todd Terry

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Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 16,301

I don't play them, but upstairs has to be a lot better in terms of drawing people IMO.

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02-10-2010 , 10:04 PM

#808

dumbndumb

grinder

Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 433

Quote:

Originally Posted by TAB

We will be looking into this...anyone that wants to chime in on the SNG upstairs vs downstairs debate, please do so.

Upstairs IMO. The atmosphere is more attractive and I think it would draw more people. However, I don't play many of these (probably would play more around big tournies of they were held upstairs, though).

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02-10-2010 , 10:09 PM

#809

Dragonball

centurion

Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 122

Upstairs!

my sole complaint ever about Borgata poker is separating the sngs from the main tournament area for this last series.

i liked it much better when they captured the "crap, i just busted" traffic exiting the room.

also i liked getting a machine-generated receipt when i registered for the sngs, as opposed to scribbling on a clipboard and getting nothing.

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02-10-2010 , 10:16 PM

#810

TAB

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Originally Posted by Ruler of the East

I vote for upstairs.

Stan

So let it be written......

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02-10-2010 , 10:40 PM

#811

kk405

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Originally Posted by TAB

So let it be written......

just because Stan said so?

but definitely upstairs and it's not even close...

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02-10-2010 , 10:54 PM

#812

TAB

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Originally Posted by kk405

just because Stan said so?

but definitely upstairs and it's not even close...

no....not just that...it seems this was a universal sentiment...in fact, I didn't hear one person say they liked it better downstairs.

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02-11-2010 , 02:15 PM

#813

hamsamich

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Originally Posted by TAB

no....not just that...it seems this was a universal sentiment...in fact, I didn't hear one person say they liked it better downstairs.

There should always be at least one dissenting opinion in America.

I vote downstairs even though I don't even play SNGs.

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02-11-2010 , 04:42 PM

#814

TAB

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Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,515

Quote:

Originally Posted by kk405

Tab, will the schedule be posted soon?

Schedule set for Deepstack :

$500 K Guaranteed $1500 + $150 DeepStack NL H
March 7-10

Sunday March 7 - Day 1a
Monday March 8 - Day 1b
Tuesday March 9 - Day 2
Wednesday Mar 10 - Day 3

Qualifiers :

Sunday Feb 21 -11am - $165 + $35 NL H SS (approx 1 in 10)
Sunday Feb 28 -11am - $330 + $50 NL H SS (approx 1 in 5)
Friday Mar 5 -11am - $330 + $50 NL H SS (approx 1 in 5)
Saturday Mar 6 - 11am - $330 + $50 NL H SS (approx 1 in 5)
Saturday Mar 6 - 5pm - $330 + $50 NL H SS (approx 1 in 5)
Sunday March 7 - 4pm - $330 + $50 NL H SS (approx 1 in 5)

BTW....looks like the Borgata Spring Open will begin on April 10 with a 7K High Roller 3 day event.

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02-11-2010 , 05:12 PM

#815

charder30

formerly known as zj123

Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 27,428

niceee....when will the date be out for that? pretty please let everything be finished before april 18th <3 (wpt championship)

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02-11-2010 , 05:15 PM

#816

TAB

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Originally Posted by TAB

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Originally Posted by charder30

niceee....when will the date be out for that? pretty please let everything be finished before april 18th <3 (wpt championship)

April 10 - 30 $3000+$200 ME begins April 25(2 day 1's)

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02-11-2010 , 05:18 PM

#817

DickFuld

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TAB

April 10 - 30 $3000+$200 ME begins April 25(2 day 1's)

During EPT san remo and EPT monte carlo =/

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02-11-2010 , 05:26 PM

#818

charder30

formerly known as zj123

Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 27,428

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Originally Posted by RaineTech

During EPT san remo and EPT monte carlo =/

and wpt championship damm...

whens the highroller?

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02-11-2010 , 06:17 PM

#819

Todd Terry

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Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 16,301

WPT Championship FT is 4/24, Borgata main starts a day later. So there's really no conflict with that.

High roller if it starts on 4/10 is on Day 4 of the NAPT Mohegan.

Tab:

Not asking for amounts, but will there be guarantees on the highroller and main event?

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02-11-2010 , 06:27 PM

#820

charder30

formerly known as zj123

Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 27,428

o true i meant Monte carlo...damm..AC or monte carlo? lol hmm actually a tuff decision.

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02-11-2010 , 06:58 PM

#821

TAB

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Originally Posted by Todd Terry

I believe so

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02-11-2010 , 07:00 PM

#822

TAB

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Quote:

Originally Posted by charder30

o true i meant Monte carlo...damm..AC or monte carlo? lol hmm actually a tuff decision.

Look into my eyes.....Borgata,Borgata...Borgata

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02-11-2010 , 07:01 PM

#823

TAB

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RaineTech

During EPT san remo and EPT monte carlo =/

Rain...what does =/ mean?

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02-11-2010 , 07:04 PM

#824

ActionBob

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Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 919

Quote:

Originally Posted by Todd Terry

I don't play them, but upstairs has to be a lot better in terms of drawing people IMO.

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02-11-2010 , 07:24 PM

#825

DickFuld

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TAB

Rain...what does =/ mean?

I mean as much as I love borgata, I love playing $8k and $16k usd buyins in a live tourney concentred with eurodonks in a place as beautiful as monaco! If the high roller is on the 10th though I will go straight from napt mohegan to borgata just for that before my flight to san remo.

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