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06-01-2019 , 10:44 PM
They should have had totally separate registration section solely for the big 50.
And daily's should have been all cancelled till the completion of all day 1 flights of the big fofty! ;-p
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06-02-2019 , 02:56 AM
Dailies have been. There are actually multiple places to reg. They're registering in the satty cage too. And still lines go out the door and down the hall. That's why there's s much complaining.

Because everyone must physically verify identity to reg, it's overloaded the system. They should just let people mail in entries or whatever because every dealer checks ID anyway.
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06-02-2019 , 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by pig4bill
Sounds like a bad sitcom episode.
Certainly felt like one. Again, a certain amount of chaos is to be expected. And at some point, there just aren’t enough resources to handle that many people in a short amount of time. But they did so many little things wrong.

Someone else mentioned there was no signage. Literally none. There were lines everywhere and no indication what they were for. And if you asked someone in line what they were in line for, you would either get a shrug or it was 50/50 you would get an accurate reply as to what the line was actually for.

And the staff was borderline useless. It’s not likely their fault. They were just managed really poorly. This was/is one of the biggest events ever and the vast majority of the staff didn’t know what was going on with regards to pre-registration.

And the whole online registration process which is supposed to help make things easier was awful. It would have been so much less hassle if I hadn’t pre-registered and just showed up an hour early to register in person. Even if I had to use the non-diamond line, the registration line at 10:00 am was far shorter than the CC verification line. I understand the need to do CC verification in person (though I don’t really understand the need to do it every year). But if you know you have 1000+ people who have pre-registered and most of these people need to verify their CCs since this will be their first event of the year, then there needs to be a better process for this. They should make it so you can verify at the cage of any Caesars property. It’s all computerized and all it is is making sure you are who you say you are. That can be done anywhere. At a minimum they should make it so you can do it at any cage at the Rio.

One other thing they can consider doing which would help a lot is to have staggered breaks for each room or group of rooms up until the dinner break. 4000+ people all heading for the bathrooms/food outlets, etc at the same time just doesn’t work particularly well.

Last edited by akashenk; 06-02-2019 at 08:09 AM.
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06-02-2019 , 09:47 AM
Hey everybody, does anybody have any information on what the min-cashes (and a few spots above min-cash) will probably look like in this Big 50 tournament?

Or if you don't know, what is your best educated guess for a possible payout for this range of players (specifically hovering around the min-cash and above spots)?
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06-02-2019 , 11:26 AM
Verification last night around 1am still took 45 minutes but i guess thats not that bad. Really looking forward to start play in about an hour and a half!!
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06-02-2019 , 12:03 PM
OK disregard my question. I did some research on the WSOP site. It looks like if Flight A is somewhat comparable, then the min-cash will be around $700-$800 for later flights. Give or take a few bucks. Based on the Flight A payout, the real money (5 figures, or $10k+) really only begins at around 35th-40th place or so.

Good luck to everybody still in the mix!!!
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06-02-2019 , 12:30 PM
How many entrants survivors in Flight 3 ?
I bagged again after cashing in day 2 of flight 1.
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06-02-2019 , 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by TexasKK
Hey everybody, does anybody have any information on what the min-cashes (and a few spots above min-cash) will probably look like in this Big 50 tournament?

Or if you don't know, what is your best educated guess for a possible payout for this range of players (specifically hovering around the min-cash and above spots)?
Each flight has their own payout for day 2. Use the wsop calculator for Event #1 $500 casino employee event as a close approximation. So if you have 6,000 in your flight, enter that number to see the results.
http://www.wsop.com/2019/payoutcalculator/
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06-02-2019 , 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by MiamiHeater
How many entrants survivors in Flight 3 ?
I bagged again after cashing in day 2 of flight 1.
you have two bags going forward to day 3 now? I thought that was not allowed as you can only play one. What am I missing?
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06-02-2019 , 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by TexasKK
OK disregard my question. I did some research on the WSOP site. It looks like if Flight A is somewhat comparable, then the min-cash will be around $700-$800 for later flights. Give or take a few bucks. Based on the Flight A payout, the real money (5 figures, or $10k+) really only begins at around 35th-40th place or so.

Good luck to everybody still in the mix!!!
Keep in mind that those payouts are only based on the prize pool from one flight. The actual payouts should be much higher once you combine all 4 starting flights.
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06-02-2019 , 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by RedOak
you have two bags going forward to day 3 now? I thought that was not allowed as you can only play one. What am I missing?
It means he got knocked out on Day 2 after cashing and then entered another Day 1.
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06-02-2019 , 05:09 PM
Yes exactly. From what I dug up there was over 19,000 players in the first 3 flights combined.
So that means that flight 3 had over 7000+ runners.

Still waiting on the confirmation of those numbers and the survivors of flight 3.

The last flight was starting 5200 players and expecting around 8000 players or more.

This is in fact already the biggest tournament in live poker history. Just waiting on official numbers.
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06-02-2019 , 06:55 PM
Anyone who late registered and have a Brasilia ticket is screwed. People who hold ticket issued at 2pm and have Pavillion on it already play. Folks that got ticket at 1pm have long way to go at the Brasilia line. No idea how amazon line moves... Same thing happened on Friday when at some point there was no line at the Pavillion and about 200 in line for Brasilia.
Totally messed up and unorganized. They should have had one line for late registration to keep fair...or leave it to player to choose a line...
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06-02-2019 , 07:57 PM
What a mass of humanity in the Pavillion Room for 1D. Massive lines to wait for bust outs to get a seat. I didnt even leave the room on 2nd break the hallway was just as bad. I dont want to think bad things but I did think if there is a fire in here everyone is screwed.

Anyway, I busted out. My AK all in pre vs KJ. King on flop. Jack on river. I literally did not win my first hand until just right after 1st break when I had 60% of my chips left. Never got back above starting stack. Was card dead obviously for super long stretches. Lost one big hand early which was most of my early chip losses. Maybe it was my table draw or maybe I just suck, but I was expecting to have at least a couple fish at the table. We only had one calling station. Someone at the table even commented that this was "the toughest table he's ever played at". Don't know if that was a really huge over exaggeration,but there was some merit to it as everyone except the calling station was super solid.
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06-02-2019 , 08:06 PM
I want to take one more shot but don't feel like waiting hours in line so my plan is grab a bite to eat, watch the basketball game in my room, and go late-reg during dinner break when the lines should be much shorter.
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06-02-2019 , 08:09 PM
Yeah when i left i overheard someone say they waited for 2 hours....obviously no idea when the registered, but the lines obviously should be moving quicker now. Also, I recall them saying they are going to be seating people until 10pm PST. Good luck!
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06-02-2019 , 08:37 PM
1 billion in chips
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06-02-2019 , 10:24 PM
WSOP on twitter just posted there is no line to reg for Big50.....
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06-03-2019 , 04:59 AM
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Originally Posted by akashenk
And the whole online registration process which is supposed to help make things easier was awful. It would have been so much less hassle if I hadn’t pre-registered and just showed up an hour early to register in person. Even if I had to use the non-diamond line, the registration line at 10:00 am was far shorter than the CC verification line. I understand the need to do CC verification in person (though I don’t really understand the need to do it every year). But if you know you have 1000+ people who have pre-registered and most of these people need to verify their CCs since this will be their first event of the year, then there needs to be a better process for this. They should make it so you can verify at the cage of any Caesars property. It’s all computerized and all it is is making sure you are who you say you are. That can be done anywhere. At a minimum they should make it so you can do it at any cage at the Rio.
Probably not possible because they have set up through Bravo, and not connected corporate-wide. The software would prob need years of work to get it there.

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One other thing they can consider doing which would help a lot is to have staggered breaks for each room or group of rooms up until the dinner break. 4000+ people all heading for the bathrooms/food outlets, etc at the same time just doesn’t work particularly well.
Just about everyone would get behind this one. The mobs are insane. What's worse is as the tournament goes on, it doesn't get any smaller because of the unending stream of alternates. They had 4 lines for late-reg that stretched down the halls. And yet, we did our first four levels with an empty seat.
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06-03-2019 , 05:16 AM
Guess what happens to traffic when a couple thousand people all try to get to the same place at 10 am?

It was also amazing to see what 4000 people descending on nearby food outlets does. Even my fallback of gift ship sandwiches was wiped out.

But woohoo, I bagged and tagged for the first time ever.
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06-03-2019 , 06:00 AM
Do they calc the 15% minpay based on the size of the Day 1 field for the flight? For example, over 8000 entries for 1D - does that mean they minpay 1200 players for that flight on Day 2D?
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06-03-2019 , 10:20 AM
15% payouts calculated independently based on each Day 1's field size. So yes, 8000 entries exactly would mean exactly 1200 payouts for the 2D field.
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06-03-2019 , 10:21 AM
My experience: preregistered online for day 1c. Arrived Friday night, dropped bags at hotel and went to Rio around 5:30pm. Went to kiosk first to swipe Total Rewards card but card stripe was not recognized. Went to Total Rewards rep in the rotunda (there were two, nobody in line) and got my TR card replaced (5 minutes). Was told to get CC verified (about 20 people in that line, but my wife was at the front, so I line hopped). 10 minutes later my CC was verified and I had stood in my last non-bathroom line for the entire experience. Total line time: 0 minute, but my Sklansky line time was probably about 30 minutes. Had I wanted to be able to fire a second bullet, I’d have had to stand in line to deposit a tournament credit on file (including the $3 CC transaction fee) and then I could have proceeded to do everything else online.

We had friends roll in around 7:30 pm Friday night (the same time day 2a was starting — UGH! to those players) and they waited in the TR line about 20 minutes, then proceed to a separate card services line by the WSOP cashiers to get their CC certified (they had to replace their card in the intervening time since they had preregistered) and they said that took about 20 minutes as well.

Our friend playing in Day 1a was there on Wednesday (not sure the time of day) and said it took him about an hour total to get his CC certified and his ticket printed).

There were tons of lines (especially for folks rebuying, one friend stood in that line for 55 minutes around 5:30 pm on Saturday night) but a lot of the lines were manageable for folks who showed up at "off hours" the night before. I was at the Rio late on Friday and Saturday nights and 9pm - 1am those nights the rotunda was like the monkey house at the zoo. I imagine it was similar the mornings before the tournaments.

Everyone knew this was going to have ~20k runners. I have no sympathy for folks who just rolled up with cash in their pockets expecting to be seated within an hour of walking in the Rio. I understand that I was fortunate enough to be able to plan our arrival for a non peak registration time (based on my experience with the '17 Colossus). Chalk up this experience for the next time you want to be part of a WSOP mega tournament.
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06-03-2019 , 12:03 PM
You're "about" 20 mins is not the case for the other 20,000+ players.
Trust me for I arrived the afternoon before the Big 50 started and still did over 3 hours in lines.

But lines are unavoidable giving the amount of players.
They are understaffed in the registration cashiers department for the wsop bracelet events.
They were so unprepared that they did not even put signs for line lines.

I've heard people wait over an hour end up in the wrong line.
They also should have an in depth sign explaining the different options of purchasing a wsop ticket.
Not everyone goes online.

They failed at the very small and extremely easy things.

I also played 2 full flights and have seen empty seats last over an hour in the Brasilia room.
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06-03-2019 , 01:06 PM
So flight 1C from Saturday Day 2 starts now Monday at 10pm.
There were 7,183 runners
1,504 return today
1,078 in the money today
10am start slightly delayed hopefully only a few mins.

There is a line at the registration line. (Looks to be at least 30-40mins)
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