I don't know anything about Clock King, but time travel paradoxes are the nuts.

It was awesome, no paradoxes though because the time distorters couldn't go backwards in time. Basically, they could either slow down or speed up time for anyone within a few meters of the device (which was basically an SNES controller). So if you want to trap someone, you can set it super slow on them, and they will be almost frozen for weeks (though they can eventually turn it off themselves, or shoot it off the bottom of their batmobile). Or if you want to, say, steal a faberge egg from an auction, or disarm a bomb half-way across town, you can set it super fast, and be there within seconds, essentially invisible to others as long as you move constantly.

I think that whoever they pick, they shouldn't have someone who has superpowers, in the same vein as the first two.. That's what I like most about the recent batman movies compared to most of the other comic book movies.. nobody is flying or has super-strength or any of that other stuff

edit: I don't know if any of the characters listed have superpowers or not

Also, if they were to bring back the Joker I think Crispin Glover would be good

I think another contender to replace the Joker (or play a sinister riddler) is Peter Stormare. I can't remember him in anything else, but he did a brilliant turn as Satan at the end of Constantine - by far the best thing in the movie.

That would be good as well. So long as it's an epic and sinister character, I'm good. main problem is following up an Iconic character like the Joker, made infinitely harder by Ledgers performance. Any of the main villains aside from a couple just seem hammy.

Didn't the ending suggest Two Face as the next villain? Harvey Dent was a good guy in this movie.

Miley Cyrus as Batgirl in the next movie.

rumor of next batman movie villains being:

Riddler - Johnny Depp
Penguin - Phillip Seymour Hoffman

Discuss

I suspect if Nolan has the ability to see where Ledger could take the Joker, and given Batman is cleaning up at the box office based on his choices, he'll be given a free hand to pick the villains, and he'll pick really well.

Dark twisted Riddler for me would be something akin to the villain from Saw. Has potential; but honestly I pity anyone who tries to step into the role of the Joker. I wouldn't be shocked if Two-Face returns. We never saw the body and Eckhart was great in the role.

Another potential for replacing the Joker: Sam Rockwell.


I actually think he'd be pretty good, if the director can tone him down a few notches. He tends to take crazy to 11.

i didn't like BB at all. didn't see what anyone really saw in it.

i went into TDK more optimistic given the insane hype. i thought it was ok. not awful, dragged a lot in places, but it was ok. better than BB, but not by as much as i had hoped. i'm in disbelief at its position on IMDB.

heath ledger was good, but i think that his performance is being blown out of proportion. yeah, he was mesmerising, but a lot of that is down to the writing, the makeup, and the whole essence of the joker's character. similarly, bale is a great actor, but the batman character blows. you can never make out any emotion on his face due to the headgear, that terrible voice, poor lines, no interesting scenes. none of which is his fault.

ledger was good, but some people have said that no one else could do that role. ludicrous. the joker was always going to steal the film.

new batman villian the KKK

I’m late into this and have read some of the comments in this thread so my view may be tainted.
It’s too long but I struggle to say what could be removed maybe the Harvey Dent story could have been left at his being burnt, the transformation between Dent and two face is very abrupt.
Is their any one to really care about in this movie? Certainly not Bruce Wayne who we barley see, we learnt more about Bruce Wayne in Tim Burton’s Batman.
The Joker was great and stole the show but then he did in Burton’s Batman. Any movie where the hero is a taciturn driven man who has to hide his emotions and personality and the Villain is a garrulous charming psychopath is going to run into problems of the hero playing second fiddle. It would be a pretty brave thing to do but it would fit with the Batman myth to focus a movie on the supporting characters and have Batman come out of the shadows for the action sequences and then slip back into them.
How the hell did this get a 12A certificate it was an eighteen except they didn’t use blood capsules. Is that all it takes, as much violence as you like so long as you never show the blood?
As for the next Batman I was hoping that the Dark Knight title was chosen so that The Dark Knight Returns would fit naturally when Nolan adapts it for the climax of his trilogy.

From Wiki, here's a list of lots of DC villains. Their weakness shows how good Marvel's are by comparison, seems to me.

• Lex Luthor
• Angle Man
• Atomic Skull
• Bizarro
• Black Mass
• Blockbuster
• Bloodsport
• Blue Llama
• Cheetah
• Copperhead
• Crowbar
• Devil Ray
• Doctor Cyber
• Doctor Destiny

• Doctor Polaris
• Doctor Spectro
• The Dummy
• Electrocutioner
• Evil Star
• Fastball
• Gentleman Ghost
• Goldface
• Heat Wave
• Hellgrammite
• Hellhound
• Javelin
• The Key
• KGBeast

• Lady Lunar
• Livewire
• Major Disaster
• Merlyn
• Metallo
• Mirror Master
• The Monocle
• Neutron
• Psycho-Pirate
• The Puzzler
• Puppeteer
• Queen Bee
• Rampage
• Roulette
• The Shark

• Shatterfist
• Silver Banshee
• Sonar
• Sportsmaster
• Star Sapphire
• Tala
• Tattooed Man
• The Thinker
• The Top
• Toyman
• Tsukuri
• Weather Wizard
• Volcana

There's one guy who's interesting, and in a way is a different kind of parallel batman of a sort, if you want to take that angle on him. From wiki:


The Spectre's career began in the late 1930s (More Fun Comics #52, February 1940), when hard-boiled cop Jim Corrigan was murdered. His spirit was refused entry into the afterlife ... Corrigan did not adopt the Spectre persona until late in #53, so the blue costume was never seen in-story ... it was assigned by an entity referred to only as "The Voice" (generally conceded to be God) to eliminate all evil from the world.

The Spectre began by seeking bloody vengeance against Corrigan's murderers in a grim, supernatural fashion.

...

In the 1970s, the Spectre was revived in the pages of Adventure Comics (#431, January-February 1974 through #440, July-August 1975). This series, written by Michael Fleisher and drawn by Jim Aparo, was notorious for its gruesome depictions of the Spectre's poetic retributions against criminals: they were melted like wax, turned to wood and run through sawmills, transformed into glass then allowed to fall over and shatter into many pieces.

...

the Spectre has a cameo in The Books of Magic, a four issue miniseries/whirlwind tour of the DC Universe's occult characters, written by Neil Gaiman. This implies him to be Raguel, an archangel who metes out punishments for God as the Spirit of Vengeance.

...

Modern Age version

Three years after the cancellation of the Doug Moench version, the Spectre was again given his own series, this time written by former theologian John Ostrander, who chose to re-examine the Spectre in his aspects both as the embodied Avenging Wrath of the Murdered Dead and as a brutal 1930s policeman.
Ostrander placed the Spectre in complex, ambiguous situations — what vengeance should be wrought upon a woman who killed her abusive husband in his sleep, for instance.


So anyway, here's another dark and terrifying obsessive guy trying to do right, who can be misunderstood, and people aren't sure if he is living or dead. A good bit like Batman in many ways, not least to those being leaped at out of the night by them.

It would introduce spookyness back into Batman, which would be kind of cool. I don't find the present Batman very scary.

Maybe not the direction they would want to go, but at least it's an interesting villain for a change. DC's other villains are largely extremely cartoonish.

would anyone believe i have never read a Marvel of DC "superhero" comic? I used to like the horror comics, instead.

I take personal offense to this. As stated earlier, Bane was smarter than batman. He is by far my favorite Batman villain and is a very complex and great character. Having said that though, I hope he isn't the next villain because I hope he's the last villain.

Oh and Marvel comics blow DC out. I heard there is rumor that they are going to make an infinity gauntlet series, which would be absolutely incredible as Adam Warlock and Thanos are some of the most interesting characters in any format.

Dom, EC comics were huge fun. I have a fantasy of having all the hardcover reprints one day. Until fairly recently they were very hard to come upon, especially in color. Even if someone would bring them back, they would go out of circulation again fairly quickly, and were generally quite pricey.

Me neither, well not DC. I was a huge Marvel guy when I was younger though. Ironman was my favorite and I had almost all of them except for the first year or 2. Also had tons of Spiderman, FF4, Avengers, Captain America (early on Captain America and Ironman were in the same comic that had 2 stories half Ironman and half CA). The treasure of my collection was The Silver Surfer No.1 signed by Stan Lee. I sold them all when I was in college (along with every Mad magazine dating back to 1956) and now of course wish I still had all those classics although beer money was real important back in the 70's

The Spectre (not a villain for clarification)...he's the "spirit of vengeance", "wrath of god", "god's hand", etc. The most powerful being in the DC comic universe...wouldn't adapt well to the big screen! I want Superman to show up in the 3rd film from pure Dark Knight Returns fanboy intentions but Nolan will probably just stick to more realistic or street level choices. Freeze...Poison Ivy...don't see it happening.

And you can't say Marvel blows out DC then proceed to mention the Inifity Gauntlet.

Why no love for the Penguin? I’d love to see Joe Pesci play the Penguin as a deranged lunatic who has pretentions to respectability and sophistication but goes psychotic any time he feels his not being shown the respect he deserves.

He wasn't always written that way though. He's changed around enough so that he's workable different ways. Besides, since when are the movies sticklers for the storyline of the comics themselves?

Mainly though he's just one of the few interesting characters you could possibly cast as a (misunderstood) villain that I recall from DC. I mean, I was really reaching, going for Swamp Thing and maybe something out of Sandman ...

Sorry, not following

As some one who owns every comic in the Infinity gauntlet story I presume his complaining about the less then satisfactory final battle and denouement to the IG story. The build up in the Silver suffer and Thanos Quest was great but once it got into the cross over titles and its own six issue run it was a lot less then satisfying and the way it tidied up all the loose ends and brought everything back to normal felt very forced and contrived. It essentially showed that the Marvell universe is, is just a USP for comics and that no event that could remove titles from publication can be tolerated.

Not sure why anyone has to die in order for it to be a good series. When I bought them I was just curious as to how Warlock and Thanos would outwit each other with the universe as their battleground. I wasn't expecting anyone to die, and the very fact that it's a mini series involving someone becoming a god would suggest that this series won't have any impact on the other storylines.

Haven't Superman and Batman both died and come back to life? That seems more forced to me.