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03-07-2024 , 02:37 AM
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Originally Posted by golddog
Last night Lincoln came on TCM. Today, my school was playing on ESPN2, and turned over to TCM during the breaks to watch a few minutes here & there of Gandhi.

Both great films. Both shocking to me (with the perspective of history, of course) that the issues being discussed even needed to be.

Don't want to start a derail, but got me to thinking about social issues of today that people will look back on two or three generations and think, "WTF, how was that even an issue?"
Love Gandhi. Daniel Day Lewis had a small role

Future generations will scarce believe that such a one as this did in flesh and blood walk upon this Earth

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03-07-2024 , 09:25 AM
[QUOTE=John Cole;58487659]I know most would rather be watching Batman or some Marvel film, but they surprise themselves when they discover that something they shouldn't like pleases them. /QUOTE]

This is the thing. So many won't even try to watch something outside of the mainstream, automatically writing it off as boring. Yet they might find they enjoy it if they'd just give themselves the opportunity.
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03-07-2024 , 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Schlitz mmmm
Love Gandhi. Daniel Day Lewis had a small role

Future generations will scarce believe that such a one as this did in flesh and blood walk upon this Earth
I agree. Sometimes I wonder if history is still taught in the schools when people don't grasp the enormity of his accomplishments.
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03-07-2024 , 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
The Zone Of Interest, Johnathan Glazer.

Glazer is one of those filmmakers who disappears for year and then shows up with a stunning masterpiece.

The Zone Of Interest is about the banality of evil to its logical conclusion. How true horror can be happening only feet away and yet be ignored by those doing the evil.

This is a masterwork of filmmaking and a movie I never want to see again.
Another "Agree" about not seeing this again. Saw it last night. Extremely precise production with regard to costumes and sets and mannerisms of the time and the place. Well done but don't need that.

Basically the filmmaker found a new way to make me throw up at the movies, this time without showing gore or violence.
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03-07-2024 , 04:53 PM
I dunno what will or should win Oscars this year except for Best Actress should be Sandra Hüller for great performances in two nominated movies.
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03-07-2024 , 05:10 PM
i liked zone of interested but it was a little too on the nose for me

could have done without sounds of gunfire in the background nonstop - which frankly was not the norm

they were brought in, those who could work were put to work, those who couldn't were immediately gassed - there would have been shooting occasionally but it would not have been constant

the ovens running 24/7 were enough of a reminder
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03-07-2024 , 05:20 PM
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Anybody see Once Upon a Time in Anatolia this weekend?

Just kidding. I meant "ever"?

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Great that you brought this up. I've actually seen this a few years ago. It was excellent, especially the use of lighting. Just the opening scenes of the caravan of law officials searching for a dead body in the Turkish countryside at night were wonderful. Another memorable scene is also at night in a small village indoors where a group of men light up an area in a dark room and spot somebody (I'm a little vague on the details). Beautiful. Moral of the story I think: People are sometimes better off believing a fiction than they are learning the truth.

Recommended . Was on Amazon Prime,mubi, Kanopy ,apple at one time

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03-07-2024 , 07:57 PM
Mad Max Fury Road: Black & Chrome Edition

Finally saw this version...just astounding in every way. Watching Fury Road in black & white is like watching a different movie. Too beautiful for words. I got to really study the compositions this way, and I'm even more impressed with this movie now. And I thought it was a masterpiece before.

The world-building, the scant dialog that gives you just enough of their religion and culture and insanity...legless men slithering through the dirt like snakes, while others on stilts walk through sour mud...mothers' milk and war pups and bullet farmers and guzzoline...

I love how the 5 wives are given their own, distinct personalities and aren't just throwaway sex slaves. On rewatch, Charlize Theron give her best performance ever. She and Tom Hardy, when on screen together, are the ultimate movie stars. Nicholas Hoult as Nux holds the film together throughout with his growth from War Boy yearning for Valhalla to realizing he's just perfectly fine as a human. His Larry and Barry also shine, of course.

Mad Max Fury Road, in any version, is this century's preeminent fairy tale. And while I still can't figure out how the Vulvalini have survived that deep in the desert (how do they gas their motorcycles?), George Miller's epic is still perfect in just about every way.

I love this movie so much.

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03-07-2024 , 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Pokerlogist
Great that you brought this up. I've actually seen this a few years ago. It was excellent, especially the use of lighting. Just the opening scenes of the caravan of law officials searching for a dead body in the Turkish countryside at night were wonderful. Another memorable scene is also at night in a small village indoors where a group of men light up an area in a dark room and spot somebody (I'm a little vague on the details). Beautiful. Moral of the story I think: People are sometimes better off believing a fiction than they are learning the truth.

Recommended . Was on Amazon Prime,mubi, Kanopy ,apple at one time
It is on Kanopy as are at least one more film I have seen by him.

I guess we even believe the stories we make up about ourselves. At least this is true for one character.

I love the scenes where the mayor's daughter appears bearing tea like an angel.



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03-07-2024 , 11:36 PM
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I agree. Sometimes I wonder if history is still taught in the schools when people don't grasp the enormity of his accomplishments.
Supposedly he - at one time or another - said some shiit to someone or another.. maybe it was before his maturation/ more inspired other true self

And needed not that any should testify of man
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03-07-2024 , 11:38 PM
Just saw Casablanca in a theater

was first time seeing the film

it was good, but don't think it'd be a top 10 film if it came out in the past decade
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03-07-2024 , 11:39 PM
https://www.google.com/search?q=gand...obile&ie=UTF-8

He was perhaps trying to love his enemies, as best he could. Inconceivable, that instruction. And his personal approach to living it.
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03-07-2024 , 11:51 PM
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Just saw Casablanca in a theater

was first time seeing the film

it was good, but don't think it'd be a top 10 film if it came out in the past decade
and a 1941 Studebaker probably wouldn't match the gas milage and speed of a 2024 car, either. What's your point?
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03-08-2024 , 12:18 AM
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https://www.google.com/search?q=gand...obile&ie=UTF-8

He was perhaps trying to love his enemies, as best he could. Inconceivable, that instruction. And his personal approach to living it.
Have you read Gandhi's autobiography? Highly readable, and somewhat promotional, as are all autobiographies, but it only goes up to the first textile strike after he returns to India.

For after that, I read Gandhi's Truth by Eric Ericson.
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03-08-2024 , 12:21 AM
Casablanca would definitely not be a top-10 film if it came out in the 1930s.
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03-08-2024 , 12:24 AM
the thing about casablanca is literally nobody is likeable so you're not rooting for anyone and even if you were, there's zero suspense about it and no thoughts as to whether or not they'll make it
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03-08-2024 , 12:26 AM
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Just saw Casablanca in a theater

was first time seeing the film

it was good, but don't think it'd be a top 10 film if it came out in the past decade
If it were released today, it would develop a cult following, then be recognized as a masterpiece.

Note that in the first 40 minutes...

Spoiler:
...Nothing happens!


Who would make that today? Who *Could* make that today?

Spoiler:
Wolverine's first car chase must begin at minute 27!
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03-08-2024 , 12:30 AM
i'd say the first hour and a half nothing happens
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03-08-2024 , 12:32 AM
rick, you're a good poster, but this take....wow.
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03-08-2024 , 12:35 AM
if a man can't imagine himself as a washed up bogart turning down dimes because ingrid bergman once ripped his heart out then i don't know what to tell you

otherwise casablanca is just one of the most professionally made films of all time. the script and the visual film language
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03-08-2024 , 12:37 AM
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the thing about casablanca is literally nobody is likeable so you're not rooting for anyone and even if you were, there's zero suspense about it and no thoughts as to whether or not they'll make it
It was finished 8 months after Pearl Harbor. It didn't need suspense because nobody knew what was going to happen.
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03-08-2024 , 03:13 AM
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Have you read Gandhi's autobiography? Highly readable, and somewhat promotional, as are all autobiographies, but it only goes up to the first textile strike after he returns to India.

For after that, I read Gandhi's Truth by Eric Ericson.
I'll do that.

Just starting Myth America. Read Jason Van Tattenhove's? account of his time with the Oath Keepers. He's not a good writer, but I pushed through. Some of his phraseology is like dude. And it rolls off the tongue.... almost
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03-08-2024 , 08:36 AM
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It was finished 8 months after Pearl Harbor. It didn't need suspense because nobody knew what was going to happen.
And written before Pearl Harbor. It's ideology is pretty clear: "They're asleep all over America."

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03-08-2024 , 09:48 AM
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I dunno what will or should win Oscars this year except for Best Actress should be Sandra Hüller for great performances in two nominated movies.

I’ve seen Killers of the Flower Moon twice, Poor Things, Maestro, Anatomy of a Fall, and Zone of Interest - and if I had a vote I just can’t see myself picking anyone other than Emma Stone. Her performance is just as dramatic as all the others but she’s also utterly hilarious and quite vulnerable. I wouldn’t be mad to see Lily or Huller win though as they were both incredible. I adore Mulligan and she was great but I do think she’s at least a notch behind the others here.
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03-09-2024 , 09:53 AM
Emma Stone was very good, but hers is the sort of loud, transformational performance that is total Oscar bait. It would be nice to see the less obvious performance win.
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