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02-10-2019 , 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Clovis8
Green Book.

I went in with pretty low expectations but this film didn’t even come close to meeting those. This is without a doubt the worst best picture nomination in decades, maybe ever. It’s racial politics are pretty appalling too.

Grade: D-
worse movie: GREEN BOOK, STAR WARS or any TRANSFORMERS movie?
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02-10-2019 , 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by mrbaseball
You really should see it though! If for no other reason than to see Raquel Welsh in a wetsuit. Fantastic Voyage is one of those movies I just can't pass by when channel surfing. A great piece of 60's sci fi.
It sounds fascinating, but really I've got so many movies I want to watch I can't imagine ever watching it.

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biggerboat's review of Dune, for anyone interested:
Just as good this time around.
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02-10-2019 , 03:55 AM
Is this the movie thread now? No wonder it went off my subscribed list. Oh well, I haven't been seeing a lot of movies lately.

I went to Fiddler on the Roof tonight at a little theater in Santa Monica (the Aero). It was really good. I saw it as a kid, but appreciated it much more now that I'm older and more sentimental. Norman Jewison was there and talked before the movie which was cool.
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02-10-2019 , 03:56 AM
I loved Fantastic Voyage as a kid. Haven't seen it since though.
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02-10-2019 , 04:10 AM
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Originally Posted by chopstick
biggerboat's review of Dune, for anyone interested:
Biggerboat's reviews are clearly masterpieces.
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02-10-2019 , 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by 702guy
worse movie: GREEN BOOK, STAR WARS or any TRANSFORMERS movie?
Transformers, green book, Star Wars in order is suck.
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02-10-2019 , 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by TheDarkKnight
Curious to hear more thoughts from Clovis on Green Book.

I loved it.
Few movies are more infected with the magical negro. The entire political journey of both characters makes zero sense. It postulates thst centuries of racial injustice could be ended if only white people could meet black people.

It’s also really poorly structured. Side characters and plot points never pay off and we are never given any idea why these two would be friends.

It also has the least dramatic ending imaginable.
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02-10-2019 , 10:53 AM
Thanks! Some movies just move me.

Viva Zapata was not one of those. Brando turns in a sullen depiction of Emiliano Zapata, leader of the peasant rebellion in Mexico in the early 1900s. Quinn was somewhat better as his rowdy brother.

Nothing much worked for me here. I'm not sure why Brando went the sulky route but it seemed somewhat distracting after a while. But, what do I know. Quinn won an oscar and Brando won a nomination, as did the screenplay.

The first thing that stood out to me is nobody even attempted to use a Mexican accent. Some of the actors even had other foreign accents. I guess you either need to go for it, or ignore it. It didn't really detract from the film but it was noticeable.
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02-10-2019 , 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Clovis8
Few movies are more infected with the magical negro. The entire political journey of both characters makes zero sense. It postulates thst centuries of racial injustice could be ended if only white people could meet black people.



It’s also really poorly structured. Side characters and plot points never pay off and we are never given any idea why these two would be friends.



It also has the least dramatic ending imaginable.

I’m not sure it postulates that. Could some white people get past their stereotypes if they met some black people? Sure.
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02-10-2019 , 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by biggerboat
Thanks! Some movies just move me.

Viva Zapata was not one of those. Brando turns in a sullen depiction of Emiliano Zapata, leader of the peasant rebellion in Mexico in the early 1900s. Quinn was somewhat better as his rowdy brother.

Nothing much worked for me here. I'm not sure why Brando went the sulky route but it seemed somewhat distracting after a while. But, what do I know. Quinn won an oscar and Brando won a nomination, as did the screenplay.

The first thing that stood out to me is nobody even attempted to use a Mexican accent. Some of the actors even had other foreign accents. I guess you either need to go for it, or ignore it. It didn't really detract from the film but it was noticeable.
All of Brando's depictions are sullen depictions. Sometimes I'm ok with it, Sullen Sky Masterson being a personal favorite.
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02-10-2019 , 05:14 PM
I saw Green Book yesterday and liked it; was entertained by it. It uses race and class as [problematic and incoherent] window dressing on a well shot and enjoyable road trip movie - Clovis disagrees with that last part clearly.

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Originally Posted by Clovis8
Few movies are more infected with the magical negro. The entire political journey of both characters makes zero sense. It postulates thst centuries of racial injustice could be ended if only white people could meet black people.

It’s also really poorly structured. Side characters and plot points never pay off and we are never given any idea why these two would be friends.

It also has the least dramatic ending imaginable.
Another point against is that the black guy is apologizing to the white guy for other white people doing bad things to him, the white guy accepts the apology and this is all taken as cool and noble.

Spoiler about a late cop scene, not directly plot related:

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The second time they get pulled over by a cop, it's actually a kind cop who helps them change a flat tire. What the **** do you think you're doing putting that in a movie ostensibly about race in 2018? You're basically "All Lives Matter"/"Not All Cops"ing it.
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02-10-2019 , 05:20 PM
My ranking, having seen all BP nominees. Brackets indicate "should have been nominated":

[The Ballad of Buster Scruggs]
[Can You Ever Forgive Me?]
[First Reformed]
[Sorry to Bother You]
BlacKkKlansman
Vice
Green Book
Black Panther
A Star is Born
Roma (this is a bit of a blind spot for me because I dislike very depressing movies)
The Favourite

(Big drop, definitely should not have been nominated)

Bohemian Rhapsody
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02-11-2019 , 12:03 PM
Lars and The Real Girl I remember when this first came out and I read the description I just didn't want to see it. Seemed ridiculous.

But, a lot of folks here have given it high praise through the years so I thought I'd give it a go.

I really liked it. You just have to go with it. Gosling was fantastic and I really liked Kelly Garner. Reminded me of a much better version of Shelley Duvall. I wish she was in more stuff.
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02-11-2019 , 01:28 PM
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Cold Pursuit is an odd movie....beautifully shot, with a unique take on the revenge thriller, but ultimately awkward in tone and narrative.
Anyone thinking of watching this should probably watch In Order of Disappearance first - Can't imagine the Hollywood version is a superior movie.
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02-11-2019 , 11:26 PM
Cold Pursuit was not good.

****

Won't You Be My Neighbor, the doc on Fred Rogers is absolutely amazing. I had tears in my eyes after watching it. It's probably a little more meaningful for those who grew up with Mister Roger's Neighborhood.

What an absolutely incredible human being. It makes you wonder why it's so scary to just be nicer to everyone? Why don't we do that? It's puzzling.
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02-12-2019 , 07:35 AM
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Cold Pursuit was not good.

****

Won't You Be My Neighbor, the doc on Fred Rogers is absolutely amazing. I had tears in my eyes after watching it. It's probably a little more meaningful for those who grew up with Mister Roger's Neighborhood.

What an absolutely incredible human being. It makes you wonder why it's so scary to just be nicer to everyone? Why don't we do that? It's puzzling.
Agreed. Very moving.
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02-12-2019 , 09:35 AM
I found that image of him and the cop with their feet in the baby pool to be very powerful. Something so simple yet so profound. Amazing man.
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02-12-2019 , 11:36 AM
Watched the Churchill thing that won Gary Oldman the Oscar, The Darkest Hour. Pretty damn good, maybe a little historically suspect as these things often are but very powerful and well-told overall. My elderly parents are visiting from Missouri and also enjoyed it, good that isolated pockets of pop culture still exist that can bridge generations in such a wholesome way.
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02-12-2019 , 06:58 PM
Tag

I remember when this was casting in Atlanta and was a little disappointed I didn't have the time to try to be in it because the cast looked like a lot of fun. It kind of came and went in the theaters and I never really thought about it. Just caught it on HBO or one of the movie channels and I thought it was quite good!

A story of a group of adult friends who have had a game of tag going since childhood. The game runs during the month of May and helps them stay in each other's lives. There's a montage of them sneaking up on each other in the most unlikely situations - one tags a guy during the birth of his child, another tags a guy at his father's funeral, etc. - to show how into this game they are. One of them has never been tagged because he's so ridiculously good at avoiding it, so the others stop their lives to go get him. Hilarity ensues.

Fun cast, silly premise that you can at the same time picture yourself in, and lots of slapstick, cursing, inappropriate humor. Was surprised that I found it funny and enjoyable. There's a lot of dumb humor, as you might expect from something starring Ed Helms, Hannibal Burress, and Jake Johnson, but I thought it was well done and I enjoy absurdity.
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02-12-2019 , 07:13 PM
Agree Tag was a heap of fun.
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02-12-2019 , 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by biggerboat
Lars and The Real Girl I remember when this first came out and I read the description I just didn't want to see it. Seemed ridiculous.

But, a lot of folks here have given it high praise through the years so I thought I'd give it a go.

I really liked it. You just have to go with it. Gosling was fantastic and I really liked Kelly Garner. Reminded me of a much better version of Shelley Duvall. I wish she was in more stuff.
Nice...
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02-12-2019 , 11:12 PM
Sports book I use has Green Book at +315 for Best Pic and Ali at -500 for Best Supporting Actor.
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02-13-2019 , 01:22 AM
incendies was great I had been trying to watch for a while glad they added to Netflix. Real gut punch but what a beautiful movie

Hold the dark- watchable but I don’t think I liked Saunier as much as others I was similarly underwhelmed with green room. Wind river was much better with similar location and some overlapping themes
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02-13-2019 , 01:39 AM
Won't you be my neighbor was good. Definitely will make your eyes water especially if you grew up watching him like I did.

Just got back from watching Alita: Battle Angel I was expecting a mediocre movie with great special effects. Ho-Le-**** what a movie, it's a must see. Cameron does it again. The key to making it so great was the work that went into making Alita so human. Cameron always pushes the boundaries of movie making and does it again by making you feel like she's a real human being.

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02-13-2019 , 12:22 PM
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Won't you be my neighbor was good. Definitely will make your eyes water especially if you grew up watching him like I did.

Just got back from watching Alita: Battle Angel I was expecting a mediocre movie with great special effects. Ho-Le-**** what a movie, it's a must see. Cameron does it again. The key to making it so great was the work that went into making Alita so human. Cameron always pushes the boundaries of movie making and does it again by making you feel like she's a real human being.
My boy and I saw the preview for Alita during Bumblebee and it looked awesome, I was going to take my 5 year old, yes or no?
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