there is only one election

Just the other day I found out there was an original / alternate (happier) version to this movie [Election 1999], which is closer to the ending of the book. Somebody found it on an old VHS tape, so the quality is crappy, but it's interesting to watch. First time I've ever heard of a film starting out with a happier ending and then change to a less happy ending after being shown to preview audiences.

Really enjoyed The Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent. Lots of very funny moments, and there's great chemistry between Cage and Pascal. The scene where they drop acid has gotta be the hardest I've laughed at any movie this year.

yeah, I enjoyed it a lot

Sandra Bullock still has quite a bit of pull. Melissa McCarthy did for a few years recently, but I think that's pretty much over with now. But yeah, there really aren't many.

Please get help. Your friends are worried about you.

To's Mad Detective is great. See it.

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+10000000

Watched the first episode of Irma Vep on HBO, and then immediately watched Assayas's Irma Vep on Criterion. Great movie with a superb ending.

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Election 2, The Sequel Directed by Johnnie To

A lot of Hong Kong gangster business takes place: At the urinal!

Mr. Soc is in trouble: In 2 days!

I promise to make you : The next Godfather!

Smoking dope in the dressing room: There’s no way out!

You are welcome in China as a tourist, but you can’t do business here!: Chairmen Only!

Have a nice rest: In Hong Kong!
One penny less: You’re dead!

More fishing!
More Chinese corruption!
More Marlborough Lights!
Tom Hanks: Played by Simon Yam!

“They call the Rising Sun!”: Hong Kong nightclub scenes never get old!

The Dragonhead Baton: Is back!

Bow out gracefully: Anything else will mean death!

‘U’ is for Uncle Teng: Who fell down the stairs!

World’s Prettiest Girl: Tries to off the hitman with a shortdog.

Now we’re: Chaining people to dogs.

Will you help Jimmy?: Dog food!

Jimmy, swear you didn’t kill Lok: Call me if you need anything!

From now on, the leadership will stay in your family!: I don’t want to be a gangster!

I’m pregnant!

More conventionally structured than the first one, but not shy about portraying corruption in the Mainland Chinese Police. Johnnie To worries less about China than American film studios. You have to admire balls during the rare times you come across them.

Check it out!

I concede that it is great, but I was very confused the one time I watched it. I need to find it on a streaming service and break it down beat by beat.

Really enjoyed Top Gun: Maverick, however:

Really? I just checked her credits, and I've only heard of one movie she's been in since 2013, and that was only because it was made for Netflix and I watched it after seeing it on their menus.

Have you really never heard of Minions or Ocean's 8?

I think Norton is overrated by his early cult status films. Honestly don't think he's all that much better of an actor than someone like Mark Wahlberg who can also carries films similar to many of the names mentioned above and has a bit of range too. Maybe it was mentioned but Denzel should also be on this list like this one too. I've seen very few Denzel movies that were not atleast entertaining and he has alot that I'll watch again and again so great rewatch ability with many of his movies.

Comparing Edward Norton to Mark Wahlberg is ****ing hilarious.

Actually your opinion is sort of humorous because I don't see a single real movie made in the last twenty years staring Edward Norton that I'd be dying to see and most of the ones post 2000 he wasn't even the star .........



Meanwhile Wahlberg has been collecting paycheck after paycheck for ..........



If we compare the best movie either has been in Wahlberg probably wins with "The Departed" and even if we take the time they were head to head in "The Italian Job", Wahlberg probably wins.

Just because Wahlberg decides to star in movies like "Ted" doesn't make him a bad actor, it makes him not giving a sh*t and having a good time.

Norton is living in the glory years as being the unknown in Primal Fear, the second fiddle to Pitt in the greatly scripted Fight Club, or I guess in the case of a poker forum Rounders. Of course he had success in other films around that time and not denying they weren't good watches; American History X, The Score, even The Red Dragon, etc but he's hardly done much for the past two decades while Wahlberg has been printing money at the box office.

It doesn't matter much what you think though. The point was more to shine on that Norton wasn't all that much in the grand scheme of things than it was to bring Wahlberg to the top. Both have their place in hollywood but I don't think either really drive the "A" list and if one is to argue certainly Wahlberg trumps Norton in that category.

Of the list rickroll posted, I definitely would not have included Norton or Keanu there.

I also find Depp and Smith to just not really rate (for me, personally) anymore. Aside from winning for King Richard, it has probably been almost 15 years since I really cared about a Will Smith featured release -- Hancock, I'd say (mainly because it was on the heels of I Am Legend). The last 10 years of his releases are really bad. But yes I suppose these two still draw at the box office.

cneuy,

I don’t care about your odd axe to grind about Norton working less in the past 20 years. Unlike the previous conversation about box office draws, you specifically compared the acting ability of Norton and Wahlberg.

They aren’t in the same ballpark, aren’t even playing the same sport. You are wrong and should feel bad about it.

It's kind of pointless to argue, especially when the list I was referring to was titled....

"here's how i'd rank the a listers - not a list of talent just ability to carry a movie with star power right now"

Maybe I could have phrased my points differently but in the end it's all opinionated anyway and I think the box office numbers show that Mark Wahlberg has carried more movies with more star power over the past twenty years....

You like Ed Norton though. Fair. Keep watching his movies I guess, maybe I will too. It's a dumb argument. Points made, I'm done.

I would agree that Wahlberg is a bigger draw than Norton.

But you seemingly shifted and compared them as actors, not draws. That was the distinction that raised my eyebrow.

Carry on.

agreed wahlberg has more blockbuster appeal than norton

perhaps i'm a sucker for edward norton, but when i see him in something like birdman or motherless brooklyn i'm transfixed and definitely view him as a major draw, if he's in a new film i genuinely want to see it

i think norton replacing wahlberg in a movie like the happening would have single handedly saved that movie from being an all time flop imo

whereas with wahlberg it's pretty film dependent but he's been fairly good in a bunch of his roles


keanu's following is smaller but he definitely has a cultish following, easily one of the more talked about actors on social media and i don't think john wick franchise would have ever become such a massive hit nor even a franchise without his presence but then again just reviewed his filmography and other than the occasional breakout hit like wick/matrix etc it's mostly box office bombs i never heard of before - so i'd probably remove him from the list but keep norton for reasons of personal bias

both are Oscar nominated actors

Is that really your mic drop?