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01-24-2022 , 03:18 AM
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Originally Posted by riverboatking
how about a few good men? one of the best films ever made?
That's definitely a good one, but he was so overshadowed by Jack Nicholson that I barely think of it as a Tom Cruise movie. Same with Dustin Hoffman in Rainman and Paul Newman in The Color Of Money. He did the hot-shot kid roles very well, but that persona wasn't enough to carry a great movie on its own.
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01-24-2022 , 11:31 AM
Being the Ricardos D

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If you like movies like The Post, then this is the one for you. I personally cannot stand movies like this. Having a political agenda in a movie is fine if the movie is still good; I think Bowling for Columbine and Wall Street are both excellent films. A movie has to be more than just a political agenda though, and that is one of the many problems with this movie. The movie focuses so much on its agenda that it doesn't really have time for the plot, which barely exists. It isn't a biography film and it doesn't focus on her battles against anti-communism or Desi Arnaz's philandering; it tries to do all of that by devoting a few scenes to each of those things, and devoting 15 minutes to the latter two when they are the thrust of the film is just bad writing.

The film does not have a cohesive theme. Is it about McCarthyism? Is it about how women, Hispanics, or old people are discriminated against in Hollywood? Is it about their personal lives? Is it about how men talked down to Lucy, when she was clearly a comic genius? It is hard to say, as the movie does not focus on any one thing long enough for one to care. It really is all over the place thematically, and the film really suffers for it.

The interview scenes where the aged writers look back on the show are completely unnecessary and take one out of the movie. These kinds of scenes can work fine if they add to the movie, like in I, Tonya, but I am at a loss as to why these scenes were included in this movie at all, rather than to act as narrators talking about what a hero Lucy was even more than what is already in the rest of the film.

Nicole Kidman and Javier Bardem are miscast in the film, IMO. JK Simmons is spot-on though.

If you liked Don't Look Up, this movie may be for you. It is pretentious and smug about its message, though in this case it can barely even try to coherently convey the message to the audience in a meaningful manner. There is a point in the end of the movie where the woman writer on the show tells Lucy that she is her hero. It had me asking "why is she her hero? What in this movie would make her anybody's hero?"

Screw this movie.

Last edited by DonkJr; 01-24-2022 at 11:39 AM.
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01-24-2022 , 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by chillrob
That's definitely a good one, but he was so overshadowed by Jack Nicholson that I barely think of it as a Tom Cruise movie. Same with Dustin Hoffman in Rainman and Paul Newman in The Color Of Money. He did the hot-shot kid roles very well, but that persona wasn't enough to carry a great movie on its own.
jack was obv amazing but he really had very little screentime when u think about it.
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01-24-2022 , 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluegrassplayer
Eeyore: Why are you so sure you would dislike all their movies?
I've tried a couple and their tone just didn't interest me, and the story didn't either.I didn't even finish watching more than half.

It's the same with Wes Anderson films, just not interested in that style.



whatever
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01-24-2022 , 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by riverboatking
jack was obv amazing but he really had very little screentime when u think about it.


great talk about making of it, especially nicholson's appearance on the set
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01-24-2022 , 08:38 PM
I totally understand the sentiment but it's too bad because they really have some great work. If you do give them another shot I think No Country is by far their best work. Since it's largely taken from the book a lot of their style which annoys you might not be present.
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01-24-2022 , 09:24 PM
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great talk about making of it, especially nicholson's appearance on the set
haha ya I saw that few years back thanks for posting was about time I watched it again.

of course fml now I'm gonna have to rewatch the movie for the gazillionth time and I just watched it a few weeks ago.
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01-25-2022 , 12:48 AM
Holy ****!!! I never caught that Lt. Weinberg thing and I’ve seen that flick 50 times!!
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01-25-2022 , 12:51 AM
who's gonna do it YOU LT WEINBERG???
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01-25-2022 , 01:13 AM
I remember cocking my head at that line the first time I watched it and was like..."is he really singling out the Jewish guy?" Glad I got it lol.
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01-25-2022 , 09:34 AM
Fargo is far and away my favorite Coen's film. I guess Lebowski and then Raising Arizona somewhere behind. O Brother I actually hate with a fiery passion.

A Few Good Men has always seemed to me like middle-brow fare with some great lines mixed in.
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01-25-2022 , 09:40 AM
o brother is on youtube, since i'm on chrome google saw me reading and typing it and put it in my feed the day i commented and yes i watched it

much better than i remember, clooney's mannerisms are now entertaining instead of annoying but still none of it really makes any sense, especially the ending but hey if you just go with it then it's very entertaining cinema
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01-25-2022 , 02:54 PM
O Brother is just The Odyssey. Boom, there it makes sense.
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01-25-2022 , 07:17 PM
I love The Man Who Wasn't There, a film that deserves more attention than it seems to have received.

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01-25-2022 , 09:07 PM
yeah, that's a good one
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01-25-2022 , 09:21 PM
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O Brother is just The Odyssey. Boom, there it makes sense.
this would be relevant if it weren't an adaptation/interpretation of the odyssey - they made clearly independent decisions the whole way through and could have taken a million different options at every turn and still been "faithful" to the odyssey
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01-25-2022 , 09:26 PM
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Fargo is far and away my favorite Coen's film. I guess Lebowski and then Raising Arizona somewhere behind. O Brother I actually hate with a fiery passion.

A Few Good Men has always seemed to me like middle-brow fare with some great lines mixed in.
Figured No Country would be in there for you. While I love Fargo and Lebowski, I think No Country is one of the best films ever made.
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01-25-2022 , 09:45 PM
My Coen film ranking is ever-shifting, but No Country always seems to be in the top 2 and mostly at 1.
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01-25-2022 , 10:14 PM
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this would be relevant if it weren't an adaptation/interpretation of the odyssey - they made clearly independent decisions the whole way through and could have taken a million different options at every turn and still been "faithful" to the odyssey
…but that’s how The Odyssey works. There has never been a definitive version of the telling.
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01-25-2022 , 10:15 PM
Raising Arizona
No Country For All Men
Blood Simple
The Big Liebowski
Fargo
O Brother Where Art Thou

are a cut above the others...they are masterpieces of filmmaking.
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01-25-2022 , 11:43 PM
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…but that’s how The Odyssey works. There has never been a definitive version of the telling.
you missed my point entirely

i wouldn't pedant with me regarding historical works, i've read most of them and we all know how a long winded pedantic rickroll derail can give threads aids with an R0 greater than omnicrom
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01-25-2022 , 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by whatthejish
O Brother is just The Odyssey. Boom, there it makes sense.
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this would be relevant if it weren't an adaptation/interpretation of the odyssey - they made clearly independent decisions the whole way through and could have taken a million different options at every turn and still been "faithful" to the odyssey
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…but that’s how The Odyssey works. There has never been a definitive version of the telling.
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you missed my point entirely

i wouldn't pedant with me regarding historical works, i've read most of them and we all know how a long winded pedantic rickroll derail can give threads aids with an R0 greater than omnicrom
Actually there is a definitive version:

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Verbifying pedant? C'mon man....
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01-26-2022 , 05:13 PM
Blood Simple, (1984) the first Coen Movie is still my favorite. You could argue about it being the best but that’s not really as important to me. It has the best ending of any Coen bro’s Movie. And of course, it takes place in Tex-Ass.

I saw this film when it first came out and it hit like a ton of bricks.
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01-26-2022 , 11:38 PM
Loved Coen's O Brother Where Art Thou pretty sure Clooney's character's full name was Ulysses Everett McGill btw.

Not a fan of Coens's Inside Llewyn Davis, seemed pointless and depressing from start to finish. I'm considering posting it in the Hated Movie thread in this forum somewhere.


In contrast I watched an uplifting movie, The Rescue(2021)(Disney stream),a documentary of the true life rescue of 13 kids from a deep (about 2.5 miles) inside a flooded cave in northern Thailand in 2018. Riveting. Must see. You may have heard about the story in general, but the details are mind-boggling. The kids were very close to death. The heroes were many. The cave divers were incredibly brave and determined to overcame all sorts of obstacles. If this story were a made up disaster film, you would think it lacked credibility. Grade A
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01-26-2022 , 11:45 PM
+1 to The Rescue. Fantastic movie.
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