Finale:

was pretty meh, left a lot of loose ends and bad writing plot devices

definitely looked like they did rewrites and drastically reshaped the storyline after they already filmed a few episodes

fan service would have bugged me if show were better but i'll take it in this thing

looking forward to season two though, seems like this was the origin story

So like a little over a week after last episode and I find myself wanting more ST: Picard.

I haven't felt that way about a TV show since Battle Star Galactica's remake.

If we treat S1 as an origin story and S2/S3 can get a little less serialized (they won't, but a guy can dream), they could really do good work. With the exception of Space Elron, the crew is all workable and Stewart is one of the greatest actors in history so it's not like he can't find it when he wants to.

Ok so I'm giving the fan-made series that continues from Star Trek: The Original Series, Star Trek Continues

Episode 2: Lolani

Pretty good episode. As ever, they nail the look and feel of the original, and has guest spots for Erin Gray as Commodore Gray and Lou Ferrigno, who is rather good as a brutish Orion slave-trader. Also props to the actress playing Lolani, it works very well.

It's also very Trek, dealing with themes of slavery and freedom.

I'm still having trouble with this version of Kirk though, but will keep watching.

It's all on youtube

There's going to be another new Star Trek series on CBS All Access. This one will be called Star Trek: Strange New Worlds and basically will be a spinoff of Discovery that centers on the Enterprise of Captain Pike, Mr. Spock, and Number One.

https://ew.com/tv/star-trek-captain-...bs-all-access/

Seems like they are going for more of a classic, episodic feel with the new series. "Exploring strange new worlds, seeking out new life and new civilizations" etc

I've been slowly working my way through TNG. I just finished the Barclay episode from season 4. In contrast to every other season, this season has been consistently good. But this was a great episode. Haven't seen one of those in a while.

I like the semi-recurring characters on the show like O'Brien, Q, and Barclay more than I do half the cast. Troi and Crusher don't do anything. Crusher's entire character arc disappeared once they stopped doing the Crusher-Picard stories in season 1, and then Wesley left earlier in season 4. Now she just does generic doctor stuff. Troi is mostly useless. I think we have seen her do actual counseling in only a few episodes. Riker is often the center of attention because he's the first officer but his character is pretty blank slate. I think his character arc was supposed to be about him becoming a captain, but I guess they gave up on that since that would mean him leaving the show. And Geordi's stories about him not getting laid are cringy.

The only 2 characters that have good arcs are Worf and Data. Worf gets all the great Klingon episodes and has the history of being a Klingon raised by humans and serving on a federation ship which gives him tons of room for character growth and good stories. And Data has all the "I want to be a human" stories which usually work since examining humanity from another perspective is what drama is all about. And Picard is the captain so naturally he's the focus of almost every episode.

Someone needs to make a youtube video of all of Riker's great reaction faces. Whenever something funny/weird happens and Riker is in the shot, always watch him and not the people involved in the action/dialogue. We got another great Riker reaction in the season 4 Barclay episode.

Tentatively optimistic. Actors are saying all the right things, so hopefully the producers have finally cottoned on to what makes Star Trek good.

Surely signals the death knell for the awful Discovery. Amen.

I heard discovery will get a season 3 but it might just have been cannibalized into this new pike show, which since almost everyone hates discovery is probably the right move.

Marathoned Picard while playing poker, didn’t like it very much and probably wouldn’t have watched it all if I was just sitting there watching it without another activity. 4/10

The new show seems promising:

The show is early in pre-production so I wouldn't expect a release until 2021 at least.

https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/sta...ic-1234608181/

Oh this is great news

I started to receive CBS All-Access for free and recently binged all of Picard. I enjoyed the first episode, but by the time I'd gotten halfway through it, I was about ready to give up on it. However, given that there were only a few episodes left, added to the fact that I was stuck in the house with nothing to do anyway, I decided to continue watching. I enjoyed the second half of the season more than the first, but definitely not enough to be excited about a second season. I doubt I'll watch any of that unless the reviews state that the show has improved immensely.

Now the question is whether I should bother watching any of Discovery? I watched the very first episode when CBS initially broadcast it on its regular network in an attempt to get people to sign up for its streaming service, but I wasn't impressed and never watched anything more. And of course, I subsequently read (or watched) all the scathing reviews. However, the new show centering on Capt. Pike seems like it could be a throwback to some classic Trek, so I was wondering if it was worthwhile to watch any of Discovery's second season given that the new show is somewhat of a spinoff.

So, is it worth my while to watch season 2 of Discovery? And if so, is there any reason at all to watch any of season 1?

The only decent stuff in Discovery S2 is Pike/Number One.
I thought S1 was okay, the Jason Isaacs stuff was pretty solid.

I watched classic,TNG DS9, Voyager. I skipped Enterprise tho.

I could not stand more than 5 episodes of Discovery and i just was able to stand through Picard because I loved TNG. But my heart broke while watching it. Its not the Picard I remember. I really hope other people can enjoy it and love it like i loved the old series. For me its over. Won´t watch a 2nd Season.

:*(

Michelle Yeoh is v good in S2 of Discovery, adds some frisson to every scene she’s in. The season as a whole is just dumb.

After a bit of a hiatus, I finally finished TNG season 4. Compared to season 3, it lacks the high highs and low lows, but the episodes are much more consistently good, with a greater emphasis on character development.

It's interesting that the season cliffhangers of seasons 3 and 4 both involve an Enterprise crew member leaving, though one case was voluntary and the other involuntary. And I wonder if it's a coincidence that after focusing on all these Klingon political issues, Star Trek VI came out shortly after which also focused on Klingon politics. I've never heard of any connection but going from "Redemption" to the movie, they share pretty much the same tone and content.

Are there a lot more must see episodes from TNG that I should see before watching Picard? The Hugh episode is coming up so I'll definitely see that. Having already seen episode 1 of Picard, Measure of a Man seemed like another must see episode. I'm not going to bother watching Voyager for context on Seven of Nine.

So I finally decided to watch episode 1 of season 2 last night since that appeared to be the beginning of Capt. Pike's storyline in STD. The episode wasn't as dreadful as the reviews led me to believe it would be, but I'm neither intrigued nor interested enough to keep watching. In fact, I don't think that there's anything further of interest for me on CBS All-Access so I'm probably just going to cancel it this week even though I can get it for free for the rest of the year.

Thats the problemthey can´t produce something that keeps people interested. Most is just trash TV. Has nothing to do with the positvity of old Star Trek. That series had a perspective what live could be and that humans evolve

k so I'm giving the fan-made series that continues from Star Trek: The Original Series, Star Trek Continues a fair shake

Episode 3: The Fairest of them all

I enjoyed this quite a bit. It's a direct sequel to the original series' "Mirror, Mirror", the one with the alternate universe and bearded Spock, and is set entirely within the alternate universe (there's even an alternative version of 'space...the final frontier....'), and the events in this occur directly after that episode.

The actor playing Kirk did a good job in this one, being a right dick and general fascist, while the Spock character felt the time to use fear and threat to further the Empire had had its day.

It's interesting to see characters we know pick whether they side with Kirk (bad) or Spock (good) on the issues presented.

Feel free to give it a go yourself:

As an actor, Vic Mignogna makes a good screenwriter and executive producer.

I've watched a couple of these previously, although not this particular "episode." I have to admit I did enjoy it, and Mignogna does a better job portraying evil Kirk then he does regular Kirk in the other episodes that I've seen.

Trivia note: The computer in this episode is voiced by Michael Dorn.

I agree, he worked much better as the evil Kirk for me than the regular Kirk

The first time I saw Unification was before I had seen many episodes of TNG and thought it was meh. I saw it again on my watch-through of the entire series and it is much improved when you have the context of all the pertinent episodes. The Sela stuff is still silly though. Poor Denise made the bad decision to kill Tasha so they couldn't just bring her back willy nilly like Wes or Dr Crusher.