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02-22-2012 , 01:44 PM
benza,

>70 is pretty nuts. 60 was not 'scary' per se but definitely pushing the limits of what i'm comfy with by definition. i.e. it wasn't 100% all out obviously but the reason was b/c i naturally didn't go 'more' tips down than i did b/c it would have been past the "out of control" level. i can only imagine what you mean by becoming smoother again since ive never skied that fast.

have you used ski tracks? is alpine replay better? i may run both of them simultaneously but that might destroy my battery lol.

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02-22-2012 , 05:39 PM
I'm on an android which doesn't appear to have ski tracks. Alpine Replay is definitely a battery hog, but I really like the way it works. There are a bunch of things you can look at and compare with friends, along with challenging each other for the different stats as well.
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02-22-2012 , 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by benza13
I'm on an android which doesn't appear to have ski tracks. Alpine Replay is definitely a battery hog, but I really like the way it works. There are a bunch of things you can look at and compare with friends, along with challenging each other for the different stats as well.
yea but you need a critical mass of people. and i dont like the outputs as much as ski tracks. further, w/ ski tracks you can see intra-run stats and run by run stats rather than just the summary statistics. so im prob sticking w/ ski tracks.

in terms of the leaderboard and all that, i don't see anything impressive but i'm probably reading it wrong:

http://www.alpinereplay.com/leader/?id=42578#

it seems top speeds ARE very impressive but there's very few of them. 60mph = 100kph so it seems that would still be in the top 100.

ofc, 75mph is just silly lol so that guy was impressive. overall though i was expecting many more big #s.
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02-22-2012 , 11:56 PM
They no longer make the top speed leaderboard public (I'm fairly sure this was due to complaints from some of their partner moutnains), what you are looking at is sustained speed - meaning it was held for at least 10 seconds. When they still had the leaderboard up there were ~5 people over 90 and the whole top 50 was >80. Here is a screenshot from one of my info pages where they still have some data available tho:



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further, w/ ski tracks you can see intra-run stats and run by run stats rather than just the summary statistics. so im prob sticking w/ ski tracks
You can do all of this with alpine replay as well. You can also watch 3d replays of your run and compare that to your friends run. This is through their website, not the app, fwiw.

Last edited by benza13; 02-23-2012 at 12:05 AM.
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02-23-2012 , 12:09 AM
here is a speed vs elevation graph for one of my runs for an example:


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02-23-2012 , 12:15 AM
i hope these apps don't end up killing me.
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02-23-2012 , 01:51 AM
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i hope these apps don't end up killing me.
LOL. i think we're all reasonable people here.

i wouldn't do anything too far out of my comfort zone and i doubt you would. benza is obv a legit boarder and seems super comfy w/ this speed stuff. as long as we don't push the envelope too far and just enjoy the rush, i'm pretty sure we'll all be fine lol.

sustained speeds of 50+ are awesome! i looked through the ski tracks app and found a few runs (4-5) from this weekend with sustained speeds of 45-50 and 2 for 50-60 but ski tracks run analysis isn't super accurate i don't think. sustained speed of 75mph (From the leaderboard) is realllly impressive. that's racing speed.
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02-23-2012 , 03:44 PM
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sustained speed of 75mph (From the leaderboard) is realllly impressive. that's racing speed.
yeah that has to be on a closed run. that's a lot faster than average downhill speeds.
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02-23-2012 , 09:14 PM
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yeah that has to be on a closed run. that's a lot faster than average downhill speeds.
and you pretty much can't hit that speed in a standard ski suit w/o an incredibly steep pitch.

for non-pros in this thread, i doubt anybody has felt what 70+ feels like. i'd love to know that feeling.

it seems we have some great skiers here though who have gone pretty fast (anything 45+ is pretty legit).

but wow, 70-75 is just 'crazy.'
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02-24-2012 , 01:15 PM
When I was in Whistler I got freshly groomed Saddle run with no other skiers or boarders. I started out with a couple turns but then just tried to bomb it. I was going way faster than I was comfortable with and Ski Tracks reported 82km/h (~51mph.)

I have no intentions of ever trying to reach that speed again, let alone on a less than pristine groomed run where I knew there weren't any pits or bumps.

I'm a giant vag, and you guys have some balls.
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02-24-2012 , 01:20 PM
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When I was in Whistler I got freshly groomed Saddle run with no other skiers or boarders. I started out with a couple turns but then just tried to bomb it. I was going way faster than I was comfortable with and Ski Tracks reported 82km/h (~51mph.)

I have no intentions of ever trying to reach that speed again, let alone on a less than pristine groomed run where I knew there weren't any pits or bumps.

I'm a giant vag, and you guys have some balls.
when it's not pristine groomed, it just takes more effort to absorb any pits/bumps.

and not doing turns is one way to go fast. doing large, controlled, carving turns is the other. that way, you're always in control and can adjust speed readily at any point by shortening your turning radius and increasing the frequency of your turns vs. when you're tips down, you have to start a turn to control speed.

if you start going 40+ regularly, you'll very quickly get used to it...then it'll become more standard, then you'll want to really push it further and further. it becomes an addiction lol.

51, btw, is NOT a 'vag' ... that's ****ing fast.
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02-24-2012 , 03:55 PM
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51, btw, is NOT a 'vag' ... that's ****ing fast.
51 on a freshly groomed, empty run isnt very fast :P you can easily get to that speed on any blues, maybe even some steeper greens if the snow is fast.


i'm about to head out for the afternoon:



weeee!
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02-24-2012 , 04:05 PM
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51 on a freshly groomed, empty run isnt very fast :P you can easily get to that speed on any blues, maybe even some steeper greens if the snow is fast.
troll.

it's obv fast.

also--> logic fail. just because you and me and others can "easily" get to that speed on a freshly groomed, open run, doesn't mean that it isn't fast. it just means it's readily doable.

also, NO CHANCE you get to 50mph on a green. i don't care how fast the snow is. i've done tips down on 'steep' greens, no turns, and you just can't hit that speed w/o some pitch. i have no idea what greens you're talking about lol.

ive def hit 45-50 on blues that weren't empty or groomed but it was bordering on dangerous b/c i had to plan the line i was taking mid-run based on people in front of me. i only rarely did this. getting to that speed isn't hard. avoiding all obstacles and absorbing all muck on the run is kinda tough at that speed though.

now stop trolling and give the guy who went 51 some props.

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i'm about to head out for the afternoon:

weeee!
cool. cold, but snowy. i like the predicted snowfall there duder. it's obv enough to get you off your laaaaaaaaaaaaaazy ass.
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02-24-2012 , 04:09 PM
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cool. cold, but snowy. i like the predicted snowfall there duder. it's obv enough to get you off your laaaaaaaaaaaaaazy ass.
most of it is realized snowfall at this point
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02-24-2012 , 04:11 PM
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also, NO CHANCE you get to 50mph on a green.
challenge accepted. i just need to find the right run/conditions but i'll post the ski tracks screenshot before the end of the year. hopefully i won't need to get a skin tight suit just to prove you wrong
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02-24-2012 , 04:16 PM
In before stinkypete ruins some chicks first day of skiing.

Also, thanks for the props Dcifr :P
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02-24-2012 , 04:19 PM
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challenge accepted. i just need to find the right run/conditions but i'll post the ski tracks screenshot before the end of the year. hopefully i won't need to get a skin tight suit just to prove you wrong
LOLLL.

i wanna see this. you must post pic of trail sign and trail too so i can look it up. obv i can post tons of ski tracks that say 50+mph...but none of them was on a green run. i have hit 30-40 on a green run by going just tips down top to bottom, but 50? no way duder.

@baumer: ofc. i really think pete's just trolling. he does that to me quite often and very successfully. 50 is fast. no if ands or buts.
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02-24-2012 , 04:34 PM
now that i think of it, all the green runs i can think of have slow signs and/or those fence things you have to go around in spots where this might otherwise be possible. so there may not be a suitable run for it. i'll try to find one though.
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02-24-2012 , 04:39 PM
Dude! Didn't read your location, but I'm jealous of it. Still, 50mph is nutso for a green and probably not safe because of the newbies goin' 15mph.
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02-24-2012 , 05:14 PM
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now that i think of it, all the green runs i can think of have slow signs and/or those fence things you have to go around in spots where this might otherwise be possible. so there may not be a suitable run for it. i'll try to find one though.
yup...and the fact that all the ones where it may be possible likely only have the "likely" part for a very short distance.

and the "most likely" portions are the end where trails merge together. i forgot about the slow signs but i was thinking about this aspect where it's v dangerous to shoot for that speed.

i def win this bet :-)
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02-24-2012 , 06:48 PM
having looked at the trail map i'm fairly confident this is doable on the greens under emerald express. if i happen to be near there when the snow is fast and it's not too crowded i'm def giving this a shot.
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02-24-2012 , 08:35 PM
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having looked at the trail map i'm fairly confident this is doable on the greens under emerald express. if i happen to be near there when the snow is fast and it's not too crowded i'm def giving this a shot.
I definitely think it's doable...but is it worth getting your pass pulled??
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02-24-2012 , 08:46 PM
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I definitely think it's doable...but is it worth getting your pass pulled??
thats the thing. gotta do it when there's very few people around, and can't do it in an area w/ slow signs.
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02-24-2012 , 10:56 PM
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thats the thing. gotta do it when there's very few people around, and can't do it in an area w/ slow signs.
You could probably do it at the bottom of pony trail on the section that cuts under the red chair.
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02-24-2012 , 11:54 PM
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thats the thing. gotta do it when there's very few people around, and can't do it in an area w/ slow signs.
i still think 50 on a green is really tough. it has to be long, sustained, and you have to go tips down w/o risking hitting anybody, signs, or other random **** on a green.

i'd be impressed if you posted 50 on a green.
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