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Old 03-16-2010, 07:37 PM   #2051
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Re: Moving to Buenos Aires discussion

Anyone here know where I can get a MTT and/or sit n go database for poker office or poker tracker? Does anyone sell those?
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Old 03-17-2010, 03:47 AM   #2052
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i look like i'm 18 and I've never been asked for ID.

edit: OP's question is whether he can get into clubs or not. frankly, i don't think he will have a problem, especially if he isn't particularly young looking. between the fact that he's a foreigner, has money and is willing to use it, and will probably meet some promoters who will help him get in (PM me OP, I can probably help you out with this), i think he'll do ok.
Alright awesome, I'll definitely PM you before we go.


Another question, directed at anybody. What do you guys suggest for housing? I've looked at lots of the sites you guys have linked to(bytargentina, buenosaires habitat, and a bunch of others..kinda tired and can't remember all of the places), but they all have very very few four bedrooms, and the ones that do seem kinda sketchy with multiple beds per room and stuff. If not that, they are like 5-6k/mo..and that seems incredibly expensive considering how cheap everything else is there, basically just a big ripoff. If I'm looking for a four bedroom in the range of 3k-4k, am I just going to be **** out of luck? Any suggestions for what sites I should be checking? Craigslist seems the best from what i've seen...opinions?


Thanks for any help.

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Old 03-17-2010, 05:34 PM   #2053
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Also, a specific question


"In French St. Between Uriburu and Azcuenaga, on the famous neighbourhood of Recoleta, four blocks from the attractive historical and cultural and tourist places, three blocks from Santa Fe Ave. and 10 minutes to down town."

How far would that be from Palermo? We want to stay in Palermo for the nightlife, but again, having a bit of trouble finding nice 4BRs there.
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Old 03-17-2010, 06:40 PM   #2054
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10 min cab
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Old 03-17-2010, 07:23 PM   #2055
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Alright awesome, I'll definitely PM you before we go.


Another question, directed at anybody. What do you guys suggest for housing? I've looked at lots of the sites you guys have linked to(bytargentina, buenosaires habitat, and a bunch of others..kinda tired and can't remember all of the places), but they all have very very few four bedrooms, and the ones that do seem kinda sketchy with multiple beds per room and stuff. If not that, they are like 5-6k/mo..and that seems incredibly expensive considering how cheap everything else is there, basically just a big ripoff. If I'm looking for a four bedroom in the range of 3k-4k, am I just going to be **** out of luck? Any suggestions for what sites I should be checking? Craigslist seems the best from what i've seen...opinions?


Thanks for any help.
The pricing seems excessive relative to local prices, but to get local prices you would be signing for a minimum of 2 years and only if you have a guarantor who owns property in Argentina. Even though a nice renovated 4 bedroom might only sell for ~350k USD and fetch a bit under 3k a month on the long term market, once you factor in real estate laws, upscale furnishings and the somewhat seasonal tourist market, paying a decent premium during the on season months is hardly a ripoff. Those same places go for much closer to local long term prices if you rent during the winter or negotiate for longer than a month.

3-4k is not out of the question for a decent four bedroom, and if you can only find ghetto places then you probably aren't looking hard enough. 4 bedrooms are going to be on short supply in any short term real estate market, so it's probably going to take some searching if you are picky about the furniture and location.
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Old 03-17-2010, 09:52 PM   #2056
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The pricing seems excessive relative to local prices, but to get local prices you would be signing for a minimum of 2 years and only if you have a guarantor who owns property in Argentina. Even though a nice renovated 4 bedroom might only sell for ~350k USD and fetch a bit under 3k a month on the long term market, once you factor in real estate laws, upscale furnishings and the somewhat seasonal tourist market, paying a decent premium during the on season months is hardly a ripoff. Those same places go for much closer to local long term prices if you rent during the winter or negotiate for longer than a month.

3-4k is not out of the question for a decent four bedroom, and if you can only find ghetto places then you probably aren't looking hard enough. 4 bedrooms are going to be on short supply in any short term real estate market, so it's probably going to take some searching if you are picky about the furniture and location.
Assuming you mean argentine winter, that is when we are going.
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Old 03-18-2010, 12:25 AM   #2057
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The pricing seems excessive relative to local prices, but to get local prices you would be signing for a minimum of 2 years and only if you have a guarantor who owns property in Argentina.
we've said this a few times on here, but it isn't actually true. while the contract is for 2 years, you are only obligated to stay 6 months as long as you notify your landlord.

the 2 years part is protection for the renter, so that the landlord can't raise prices for the length of the 2 year contract. however, because Argentina is beyond ******ed about real estate agents, you will pay the real estate agents their 5% of all 24 months up front when you sign the contract. also, i think you will forfeit your security deposit, but you might be able to negotiate that.
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Old 03-18-2010, 12:28 AM   #2058
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also, Cxf, that's not far from palermo for going out purposes. heck, if you're an Alamo/ casa club guy like probably most 2p2ers are, you will be closer. if you're going to Puerto Madero, you will be closer. If you're going to costanera norte, it is about the same 10 minute drive.

i wouldn't live in Recoleta, but that's because i like being able to walk to restaurants. if your only reason is clubs, i wouldn't worry about it.

edit: maybe 6 months ago, probably the trendiest Friday club was in Recoleta. iirc, 100 peso cover, speaking english wasn't going to help. of course i don't remember the name of it right now.
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Old 03-18-2010, 01:46 AM   #2059
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Wow thanks for that restaurant tip, forgot about that. Just did some more googling, definitely going to stay in Palermo..just gotta find a nice place. Gogo gadget craigslist!
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Old 03-18-2010, 02:13 AM   #2060
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i really wouldn't stress too much. if i were you i'd just rent the place for a month and then when you are here for the first month keep looking around for your next place.

btw, there are plenty of nice restaurants in recoleta too. just the ones i prefer are in palermo. the location you quoted is like 4 blocks from the cemetary, iirc, so it's an area tons of people would love to live in
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Old 03-18-2010, 04:21 AM   #2061
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Yeah idk, we'll see. I'll be keeping an eye out for different places.


Also - I've been kind of lazy with learning spanish. Will I be okay just doing part 1 - 30(out of 90) of pimsleur, then taking a couple hours of spanish a day once I get out there? or should I cram all 90 lessons into the next month? Level of fluency required = enough to order food and talk to girls in bars/clubs.

I've kind of heard both things - on one hand, people saying that they wish they learned more spanish before they went there, but on the other, people saying that you should just learn the very basics then go out there and do a ton of lessons and talk to everybody you can.
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Old 03-18-2010, 05:04 AM   #2062
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heck, if you're a sugar bar guy like most 2p2ers are, you will be a 10min cab drive away which is not rly that bad

i wouldn't live in Recoleta, but that's because i like being able to walk to restaurants and bars .
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Old 03-18-2010, 05:08 AM   #2063
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I still think living in Recoleta is wayy better than Palermo. Palermo has a load of restaurants but is boring as hell. If you wanna get **** done and be pretty much equidistant from anywhere in the city that you would ever want to go, live in Recoleta.
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Old 03-19-2010, 12:57 AM   #2064
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The main thing I care about is restaurants, bars, clubs. Will obv explore the rest of the city, but will be doing various bars/clubs/restaurants daily, so being able to walk around and just go places is nice.
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Old 03-19-2010, 02:57 AM   #2065
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I mean it doesn't really matter then, live anywhere.
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Old 03-19-2010, 11:06 AM   #2066
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I've lived in Palermo basically my whole life and I'm 100% sure it's the best place to live in by far. It's safer than Recoleta, has better restaurants, better bars, better clubs, more subway stations, more buses, better access to highways and less traffic.
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Old 03-19-2010, 12:00 PM   #2067
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it's not possible to have different tastes? also, didn't you live in brazil the last couple years?
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Old 03-19-2010, 12:07 PM   #2068
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"Palermo" is very large and general too, there's some parts of Palermo Hollywood I'd consider a little far out and crappy.
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Old 03-19-2010, 03:12 PM   #2069
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Old 03-19-2010, 04:08 PM   #2070
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it's not possible to have different tastes? also, didn't you live in brazil the last couple years?
Yes, that's why lots of people who could afford to live in Palermo live in Recoleta. No. (were you talking to me?)

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"Palermo" is very large and general too, there's some parts of Palermo Hollywood I'd consider a little far out and crappy.
Agree 100% with this. I was referring mainly to Palermo Soho and the area near the Botanico.
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Old 03-20-2010, 12:18 PM   #2071
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Old 03-20-2010, 12:23 PM   #2072
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Quick question, may be somewhat vague given there's different districts inside Palermo and Recoleta. How much/how long is a cab ride from Palermo to Recoleta? Thanks.
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Old 03-20-2010, 12:46 PM   #2073
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Depends, the two barrios are quite large. Palermo Hollywood to the cemetery = 10 minutes, 18 pesos. Alto Palermo Mall to the corner of Callao and Santa Fe = 4 minutes, 8 pesos.
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Old 03-20-2010, 03:30 PM   #2074
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Yeah it depends but I've never paid more than like 18 pesos and the average is closer to 10-11.
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Old 03-20-2010, 03:53 PM   #2075
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how come is san telmo not getting more love ITT? such a cool place to hangout, would be very happy living there, has a much nicer vibe than recoleta imo. am i missing something?
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