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Originally Posted by riverboatking
I understand that but look at films like casino, children of men, TAOJJBTCRF, inglorious basterds, seven, the game, NCFOM, TBL, etc and you can see what an elite director is able to do compared to Spielberg.
it's totally fine if you don't care about or notice any of that stuff, but when discussing elite directors i don't think you can discount that stuff and just be like I like Spielberg movies.
So you subscribe to the auteur theory? That seems essential to me.
You need to be an auteur to be a great director.
But being an auteur doesn't make you a great director.
Michael Bay is an auteur. Watch ten seconds of a movie and you'll know if it's his. But he's terrible.
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if he has a good script and good actors he can make an entertaining film, but aside from the first 20mins of saving private ryan he really doesn't do anything behind the camera that stands out to me.
RBK,
We shouldn't limit an auteur's stamp to visuals while dismissing his or her contributions to the sound, the story, the acting, etc. It wouldn't be right to dismiss Spielberg's contributions to the storytelling because he had a good script or good actors. All directors have cinematographers, scriptwriter(s), film editors, on and on. Unless the director doubled for one of those roles, but generally, even if the director didn't also write the screenplay or the like, the director influences all of those elements and pulls them together into "their" film.
The Star Wars prequels had some insanely good actors. But George Lucas is a terrible director. I blame him for the terrible acting. The terrible storytelling. Etc. He is for sure an auteur though!
I guess I am saying I agree with Gonzirra.
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Originally Posted by Gonzirra
I don't know how it would even be a question.
When I watch a QT, Hitchcock, Scorcese, Fincher movie I see all kinds of quirky telltale style direction things, which can be great if the director is good. But with Spielberg it's usually so seamless that he makes himself an almost invisible aspect of the film and there's a lot to be said for that too.
It's probably because his style shows up in so many others' that it doesn't stand out so much. I do notice things when I'm looking for them but I'm usually forgetting about the direction while watching his stuff. It's vanilla maybe but it's good vanilla.
Spielberg is definitely an auteur. We might not notice his stamp on the visuals any more, but love him or hate him, his stamp is all over the place on his movies. For example, Spielberg has a sentimentality that he always adds to a story.