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05-04-2011 , 02:13 PM
I use a whetstone. The handheld devices posted above are fine too. Don't take your knives to a butcher though. The shop I used to work in provided free sharpening. I used a belt sander. That will really **** up the temper of your knives - I wouldn't do it to any decent quality knives but some people did. If you invest the money in decent knives, then sharpen them yourself.
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05-04-2011 , 04:24 PM
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I use a whetstone. The handheld devices posted above are fine too. Don't take your knives to a butcher though. The shop I used to work in provided free sharpening. I used a belt sander. That will really **** up the temper of your knives - I wouldn't do it to any decent quality knives but some people did. If you invest the money in decent knives, then sharpen them yourself.
I should have said a good butcher, one that its obvious they know what they're doing. This is what a lot of chefs (Ramsay, Keller, Ruhlman) recommend.
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05-04-2011 , 04:52 PM
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I should have said a good butcher, one that its obvious they know what they're doing. This is what a lot of chefs (Ramsay, Keller, Ruhlman) recommend.
Or instead of assuming that the "good butcher" really is a good butcher, just ask him how he sharpens knives for customers. If it is anything that involves a motor like a belt sander or an electric grinder/knife sharpener, take a pass.

I still recommend doing it yourself. Most people who pride themselves on their kitchen skills should have pride enough to care for their knives themselves.
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05-04-2011 , 07:22 PM
I made that potato, cheese, and jalepenos deal. It looked kinda ugly. Tasted delicious. My stomach has reminded me that lots of jalapenos are torture, though.

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05-04-2011 , 08:19 PM
thanks for the replies about knives.

i dug out my an old whetstone my dad had in the garage and played around with it today. all the websites say not to apply too much pressure and just let the stone do the work. anyway i tried that and was getting nowhere, which i attribute to the knives being incredibly blunt and the stone maybe sucking. anyway i started to apply quite a bit of pressure and had decent success, and it was sorta fun.
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05-04-2011 , 08:36 PM
My system for knives.

"Honey, the big knife needs to be sharpened."

Works every time. (I assume he uses a whetstone.)
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05-04-2011 , 08:42 PM
I tend to sharpen mine on human bones. Is that not the norm?
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05-04-2011 , 08:49 PM
When I was an apprentice one of the long time butchers asked me to sharpen his knives for him. I knew that it was a load of BS, so I asked one of the other guys what I should do. We ended up working the knives at a 90° angle on a whetstone for several minutes. No one ever asked me to do any BS work again.
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05-05-2011 , 03:12 AM
Ive been a professional cook for 5+ years and there is no better sharpener than a good old whetstone. No houswifey kitchen gimmick toy can improve over dragging a piece of steel across a rock.
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05-05-2011 , 04:18 AM
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thanks for the replies about knives.

i dug out my an old whetstone my dad had in the garage and played around with it today. all the websites say not to apply too much pressure and just let the stone do the work. anyway i tried that and was getting nowhere, which i attribute to the knives being incredibly blunt and the stone maybe sucking. anyway i started to apply quite a bit of pressure and had decent success, and it was sorta fun.
Did you

a) leave it to soak in water 10 minutes before you used it?
b) leave the dust that was forming on the stone as you worked?

The second one I didn't realise until I read it in a Global handbook, its instrumental to getting good sharpness. I've had much better success since i started doing that.
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05-05-2011 , 05:01 AM
a) no i just wet it briefly
b) yeah

the stone only has one side, is no doubt 20 years old and probably isn't the greatest. but i was happy with how easy the whole process is. have been eyeing up a set of global knives for £250, just need to get my own place now haha
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05-05-2011 , 05:09 AM
thats really bad. ideally the stone soaks inw ater for atleast an hour. its should drip well after you pull it out of the water. most pro kitchens keep a stone in water 24/7 and change it every time they use it. also doe not ever wipe the whetstone off while sharpening. the gritty slurry, as anyone who knows about sharpening will tell you, is what does the work.

ive used globals for five years but its very much personal preference. they are very light but i like that in almost any tools ive used (knives, pool cue, mouse, hammer, girls, etc.). also if you have beefy hands they arent ideal.
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05-05-2011 , 05:24 AM
i see. i'll try again tomorrow then i guess. after a quick google i read wetting it was optional, didn't see anything about soaking

i got them to the point where they were cutting into taut paper (which was a huge improvement), but they certainly weren't effortlessly slicing off strands like on some youtubes i saw.
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05-05-2011 , 05:27 AM
Yeah, i think i'm getting some wusthoffs for my next knives for that exact reason, the globals seem to have very small handles.
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05-05-2011 , 07:28 AM
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Ive been a professional cook for 5+ years and there is no better sharpener than a good old whetstone. No houswifey kitchen gimmick toy can improve over dragging a piece of steel across a rock.
I completely agree with this in terms of getting knives to peak condition, but at the same time there is a big difference between what we are looking for in knife sharpening for a chef compared to a cook.

My knives don't need to cut through bone like butter all day, or slice up a sack of onions every morning and so on. A good whetstone will do a marginally better job that will be clearly noticeable if they are being used for these sort of tasks all day every day, but it is much more work than just using one of the very simple (and to be honest, in the case of the two whetstone wheeled mini sharp I posted, a very good) job. The effort/reward balance that has to concern a pro chef doing 200+ covers a day just isn't there to the amateur cook imo.

Last edited by Wamy Einehouse; 05-05-2011 at 07:46 AM.
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05-06-2011 , 05:09 AM
Sushi refeed day



Risotto with fish





Farm fresh eggs, yay (my golf course is run by a farmer family.)



Some supplements



Dinner at GFs parents house



GF made french onion soup



oops

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05-06-2011 , 07:43 AM
Pizza day.

Mushroom and jalapeno as craving vegetarian food after week of constant meat in Turkey. Used a red pepper and walnut pesto for base sauce which worked nicely.

Before:



After:



tl;dr guide to making pizza at home (written for family so excuse language in places but too lazy to re-write):

Spoiler:

General guide to all things home-made pizza. Yes it's messy, yes it's immense fun, yes it has to be planned a little in advance and yes it tastes much better than anything else so it should be done as often as possible.

The flour.

Despite being a massive fan of very high grade flour pasta, I'm actually the opposite with pizza flour. Forget the need for obscure brands of 00 flour that cost five pounds for a small bag, with pizza any kind of hard flour will work. I struggle to tell any difference between any of the supermarkets own brand hard flours for pizza, so just buy whatever you find.

The stone.

Worth getting one. Baking trays will do, but to cook pizza well you need something that not only is large enough to take the pizza, but also something that will hold its heat when the pizza hits it at first – something a baking tray simply does not do. Any brand of pizza stone will do, or even just a slab of marble or other oven safe smooth stone. I throw it in and turn the oven on about half an hour before I want to put the pizzas in, and it is always fine given this sort of time to heat.

The passata.

Just like the flour, I'm actually pretty lax with tomatoes here. Any sieved tomatoes will do. Selection of pestos work well too.

The cheese.

Just buy good quality full fat mozzarella balls. Some use processed forms because if wrongly prepared mozzarella balls can stream liquid onto the pizza and make the sauce and base watery and non crisp, but they miss out on the best flavour. The way to avoid the wateryness is to simply crumble the cheese very finely over the pizza – a little annoying and time consuming but more than worth it for the end flavour.

The toppings.

Whatever you want in any combination you feel. Add Parma ham late or it will crisp too much and go nasty, but pretty much everything else you should put on at the start. Place toppings on after the passata but before the cheese.

The dough.

Either in a very large saucepan, on a big chopping board or simply on a clean table, pour a load of flour on the table. I generally allocate around a tennis sized ball of flour per person, but this is more than enough, and you will always have leftovers which can either be fridged for a few days or frozen. The dough also makes lovely bread/dough balls if just baked so always make more than you need for a given meal.

Boil a kettle, and fill a mug with 1 part boiling water to two parts cold. Depending on what kind of yeast you are using either add it to the water then and leave to sit according to instructions, or if using ready to bake yeast simply add it the flour.

Make a well in the centre of the dough, and slowly add steadily water until the flour starts to form a dough. It always goes too wet at first so have some extra flour ready to dry it out a bit. Add a good slug of olive oil and a generous pinch of salt. Knead for a while until it is a texture that is pliable and easy to knead, but not so wet that it sticks. Put in a lightly oiled container and cover. Leave this to rise somewhere warm for an hour or so.

After it has risen, take it out, squash the air out of it and knead again for a little while, again adding a little extra flour if it seems too wet.

Wrap and chill/freeze for as long as you want.

Making the base.

Forget bizarre Italians spinning things. For each base take a lump of dough a bit bigger than a golf ball per pizza (a billiard ball is probably the right size, but suggesting referencing sizes from houses of ill-repute may bring concerned looks in certain circles). Pull gently into a circle and flatten with the palm of your hand. Pick up and just gently stretch in all directions. Any small areas of thick dough simply flatten with thumb and forefinger and keep stretching. Plug any holes with small bits of dough from the main blob

Get into any shape you want (I currently like vague triangle shapes but anything you like is fine).

Lay on a piece of baking parchment. The parchment is crucial as it means you can get the base very thin and still easily onto the hot stone without the need for a huge pizza spade.

Add all your toppings, put the finely crumbled cheese on, sprinkle with pepper and maybe a drizzle of olive oil. Now ready for the oven.

Cooking.

Heat the oven to its highest setting with the stone/tray inside. Remove the stone and put it on the hob. Take the parchment with the pizza on and drop on the stone. Quickly return the stone to the oven. Check on it after five minutes and then every few minutes to see how it is doing. Pizza can burn very quickly so be on the ball or face blackened pizza for dinner.

It is ready when the cheese is golden and the base starts to blister. Eat with gusto.
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05-06-2011 , 01:43 PM
Brag: I got into Madrid this morning and walked into a random convenience store. What do I see? Jamon Iberico at €6.99/100g. omnommnomnomon

Sure as hell beats the €18.20 they want to charge for a room service hot dog.
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05-06-2011 , 05:05 PM
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Brag: I got into Madrid this morning and walked into a random convenience store. What do I see? Jamon Iberico at €6.99/100g. omnommnomnomon

Sure as hell beats the €18.20 they want to charge for a room service hot dog.


god i love that stuff, I can't wait to get back over there to eat it
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05-06-2011 , 05:06 PM
Rough life Roy.
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05-08-2011 , 05:34 PM
Tried something new on the BBQ today, i went for an American style marinated piece of pork fillet. I took a lot of pics because i normally lurk here and it's time to give back to the thread i'd say. It turned out delicious so i will share the recipe with you guys as i go along. It's a Jamie Oliver recipe (i know) so you could probably Google it as well, it's blackened pork fillets in the book if you translate it literally.

first things first, time to make a marinade for the pork fillets to tender up in. i did this in the morning after breakfast so i could let them sit in it all day long.
Setting up the ingredients:


from left to right: fresh thyme, paprika powder, ground cumin seeds, ground fennel seeds, cloves, balsamic vinegar, tomato ketchup. in the front there is some dried garlic and an orange.

to make the marinade you just mix all those ingredients together in these amounts:

• half a teaspoon of cumin seed
• one teaspoon fennel seeds
• two cloves
• one big tablespoon paprika
• zest and juice of 1 orange (if the orange is big consider using less juice.)
• some fresh thyme, just the leaves and chop them.
• 4 garlic cloves, peeled and very finely chopped. (use less if not a fan of garlic, it's a bit much) i did not chop fine enough and that's pretty bad.
• 150ml tomato ketchup
• 6 tablespoons balsamic vinegar

your end result will look something like this:


now get your pork fillets out, you need about 4x400 grams worth. My butcher chopped it into four pieces for me but they were very big so i halved those again to make them more manageable for me on the BBQ.



Put salt and pepper on the pork fillets to get them ready to marinate, i put them all in a large tray so they were easy to store after the marinade went on. Use whatever you find convenient i guess.



now scoop most of the marinade over the fillets and turn them over a few times so they are completely covered in it. (the acid will make the meat tender during the day so this is important) keep the remaining marinade as we will use that in the evening to create a nice sticky coat around the meat when we put it on the BBQ.

(oops, i fail at pics. it's not sharp.)

now just put it away and go about your day.

In the evening we fired up the BBQ to cook these babies. when i took the tray out the meat was already enormously soft due to the acid in the marinade (i used juice of the entire orange, it is probably less soft if you don't do that)

the rest of it is simple. just skewer the pieces together or put them on seperately, and put them on the BBQ. just regularly turn them and coat the pieces in the remainder of the marinade so they build up a nice slightly black, sticky and delicious coat around the meat. how long it will take before they are done depends largely on the size of the pieces so you will have to find that out by yourself. the pieces i had were done by the time the sticky coat was good enough for me so you can check the size of the pieces for that if you want.

here's a picture about midway through:



And they are done!



EDIT: let them rest for five minutes after they are done before cutting into them.

I just ate these babies some added salt and pepper and a nice salad of rocket (and some other sorts of lettuce, it's a store mix) with chopped paprika, onion, tomatoes and a little dressing that my mother makes for me (lol hidden recipe, srs.). after that i was lazy so i added some potato salad that is pre made from the store.



A damn delicious meal out in the sun i must say. Definitely something i would recommend to people who are not so adventurous with their BBQ . For pro BBQ people it is really good as well but you probably already have your own recipes already. Hope you enjoyed the pics, because i enjoy this thread immensely when i am hungry and behind my computer.

Just an added tip for anyone who wants to make this as well, i had used up most of the marinade on the first half of the pork fillets, you can consider using slightly more for the ingredients of the marinade if you think the coat needs to bigger and better.

Last edited by axel_nld; 05-08-2011 at 05:58 PM.
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05-09-2011 , 06:52 AM
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It's a Jamie Oliver recipe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRLqLACXFC8

Last edited by Wamy Einehouse; 05-09-2011 at 06:53 AM. Reason: And that looks so gooooood wp sir :)
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05-09-2011 , 12:59 PM
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Haha that is really funny, now i will probably LOL every time i hear him on TV.

and thank you sir, it's appreciated. i really enjoyed the BBQ recipe because i normally buy pre packaged BBQ boxes and doing it myself was awesome. (very engaging as well contrary to a box of marinated pieces of meat and sausage.)
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05-09-2011 , 01:58 PM
Hello all.

I would like to eat more oatmeal for breakfast. Problem is, when I cook it according to package directions, it's pretty bland, mushy stuff. Anyone have tips, favorite oatmeal preps, etc. that they'd like to share? Thanks!
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05-09-2011 , 03:07 PM
Add nuts and seed. Currently I've mixed my oats with almonds, hazelnuts and sun flower seeds. Have berries around. I also like sliced banana and cinnamon.
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