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11-24-2017 , 08:51 PM
How about “law school and practice”?
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11-25-2017 , 01:09 AM
"Boom, lawyered"
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11-25-2017 , 03:25 PM
congrats sam!
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11-25-2017 , 07:07 PM
In for a name change
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11-28-2017 , 10:38 AM
I got hit with brutal scheduling of tax, evidence, business orgs. three consecutive days next week. full on zombie mode right now, but 50% done with law school come December 7th at 9:30pm.
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11-28-2017 , 03:08 PM
Gotta check that **** out when you pick classes man!

Last edited by minnesotasam; 11-28-2017 at 03:08 PM. Reason: sucks tho, gl
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11-29-2017 , 10:07 AM
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Congrats! That's awesome!

Nit picky, but I'm curious: graduation + bar passage = esq.? Or is it technically not until you're admitted in a state?
Not a lawyer,I may have a term or two wrong here but the gist of this story is true, anyway one of my friends recently graduated from KU law. He passed the bar in Kansas but was not admitted to practice law because he omitted information about his debts on a character fitness form.

edit: so the point is if you are in a state that has a character test or whatever make sure you pay your debts and be honest about your credit history on the test.
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11-29-2017 , 10:50 AM
Yes, debt is a question that character and fitness checks into. An outright omission of adverse credit history is kind of crazy thing to do, it's extremely easy to verify that information.
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11-30-2017 , 05:01 PM
Update:

Tough few weeks here. Going to run in the black in Nov, but might not be able to take a paycheck for Dec. Not a huge deal, but sucks. Nov and Dec are so ****ing slow around here w/the holidays. I assume that's everywhere, but would love to hear from other attorneys in other areas if that's std.

Had about 1.5k coming in the door for two custody's, but both CL's changed their mind/got back together w/significant other, so custody not needed.

Most important though, might have had an easy big judgment slip through our fingers. Had a CL who's house got destroyed by two drivers in the middle of the night. Completely destroyed the house, tons of damage, etc. Anyways, my mentor valued the case around 150k, but could have been worth slightly more if pitched the right way. W/o getting into details, just got to trust me on that value

Anyways, turns out the drivers were racing and the insurance companies pretty much told me to sack up and sue them individually. They are claiming no liability since the act is now in the realm of "intentional torts" and not negligence, so gg.

We can still sue them individually, but they don't have any money, since they're just kids. (like 21 and 23) I'm thinking about just suing them anyways, we'll win 100%, tbh move for summary judgment on duty/breach/causation, just would be trial on damages. So, hopefully, they get mommy or daddy to bail them out so their credit scores aren't wrecked. If not, there certainly won't be a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, unfortunately.

I know we'll work it out and it's very likely we will get some fee....but it's definitely a gut punch to think you have 50k coming in the door and then all of a sudden, get the carpet pulled out from under you.

(Lots more details I left out fwiw. I know that might be sort of short, but yeah)

I guess the golden rule is don't count your money until it is in your account lol. Hard not to get excited to win big cases though.

Hope everyone had a good Thanksgiving in the thread. Don't work too hard guys
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12-01-2017 , 04:46 AM
You need to consult with someone who specializes in insurance law as a plaintiffs attorney. The probability of the insurance companies having no exposure is near zero, and, even in the rare situation of no exposure, how you draft your complaint may be extremely important.

I had a guy I used (now deceased), he specialized in insurance advice to plaintiffs attorneys. On several occasions, insurers told me to go pound salt, with their contracts seemingly backing them all the way, and my guy pulled rabbits out of the hat that convinced the insurers to pay policy limits.
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12-01-2017 , 08:35 AM
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You need to consult with someone who specializes in insurance law as a plaintiffs attorney. The probability of the insurance companies having no exposure is near zero, and, even in the rare situation of no exposure, how you draft your complaint may be extremely important.

I had a guy I used (now deceased), he specialized in insurance advice to plaintiffs attorneys. On several occasions, insurers told me to go pound salt, with their contracts seemingly backing them all the way, and my guy pulled rabbits out of the hat that convinced the insurers to pay policy limits.
Thanks for the advice, Gioco.

My mentor has been a PI/med mal attorney for 40+ years now. He's pretty convinced the insurance companies got off the hook, but we are sitting down with his friend who defended insurance companies for 40+ years (just retired about 6 mo ago) before Christmas to go over it.

Hoping for a rabbit out of the hat this time as well
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12-01-2017 , 10:38 AM
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Tough few weeks here. Going to run in the black in Nov, but might not be able to take a paycheck for Dec. Not a huge deal, but sucks. Nov and Dec are so ****ing slow around here w/the holidays. I assume that's everywhere, but would love to hear from other attorneys in other areas if that's std.
My father is in small firm life - November and December usually bad because his collection of fees decreases (clients are spending on holidays) and for his Plaintiff clients who are cash accrual method, they often will decline any settlement offers made by defendant's until after the new year to defer tax liability.
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12-02-2017 , 11:59 AM
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Not a lawyer,I may have a term or two wrong here but the gist of this story is true, anyway one of my friends recently graduated from KU law. He passed the bar in Kansas but was not admitted to practice law because he omitted information about his debts on a character fitness form.

edit: so the point is if you are in a state that has a character test or whatever make sure you pay your debts and be honest about your credit history on the test.


Not even licensed yet and already lying....
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12-03-2017 , 06:50 PM
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Thanks for the advice, Gioco.



My mentor has been a PI/med mal attorney for 40+ years now. He's pretty convinced the insurance companies got off the hook, but we are sitting down with his friend who defended insurance companies for 40+ years (just retired about 6 mo ago) before Christmas to go over it.



Hoping for a rabbit out of the hat this time as well


Def should be able to find some $$ here. A lot of times mommy and daddy's homeowners could apply if they still live at home. I've worked on both sides of PI (now on Plaintiffs side).
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12-04-2017 , 06:29 AM
Is law school that awful? I mean...i can imagine it being challenging but is it really that difficult?!
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12-04-2017 , 03:53 PM
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My father is in small firm life - November and December usually bad because his collection of fees decreases (clients are spending on holidays) and for his Plaintiff clients who are cash accrual method, they often will decline any settlement offers made by defendant's until after the new year to defer tax liability.
Good to know, Cohiba. Been chatting around and everyone says that Nov/Dec run lean, while Jan picks right back up. Makes me nervous when revenue dips is all.


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Def should be able to find some $$ here. A lot of times mommy and daddy's homeowners could apply if they still live at home. I've worked on both sides of PI (now on Plaintiffs side).

Good thought Jimi. I mean, if we have to personally sue these guys, idgaf and I'll pin them to the wall. My thought was just sue personally, try to get a settlement, but if we go to trial, we'll win, and then just hang the judgement over them for the rest of their lives. They're young, so student loans, auto loan, house, etc. would be nearly impossible if I could hang a 6 fig judgement over their heads. Maybe mommy and daddy swoop in to pay off before their lives get ruined....but maybe not lol. Lots of money and risk for a "maybe" type of situation, esp for starting out where we don't have tons of excess capital to throw around.
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12-08-2017 , 11:29 AM
so the nightmare that is examplify (similar to Exam4, ExamSoft, etc) crashing mid exam finally happened to me. Really the the most annoying BS in the world. I always knew this, but people who type clearly have an edge over people who write imo.
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12-08-2017 , 11:57 AM
Brutal, just brutal. I saw that happen to a girl in the middle of the bar and she took it like a ****ing champ. Barely blinked, called over a proctor, got to writing.
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12-09-2017 , 12:02 AM
****face opposing counsel left me a voicemail tonight at 5:30 pm with a settlement offer higher than his last settlement offer (I represent defendant) that expired at 9pm tonight.
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12-10-2017 , 12:10 AM
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****face opposing counsel left me a voicemail tonight at 5:30 pm with a settlement offer higher than his last settlement offer (I represent defendant) that expired at 9pm tonight.
Why do this, so strange. What did you do?
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12-11-2017 , 10:29 AM
Really disappointed to go into work today. Dang Congress always has to ruin things and pass a budget at the last minute.
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12-11-2017 , 11:32 AM
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Why do this, so strange. What did you do?


I called him back and told him to get serious.
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12-20-2017 , 05:47 PM
Got a B+ on exam where the software crashed mid-way through final. Feels like I earned an A tbh.
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12-20-2017 , 06:58 PM
Finished finals on Monday night; started bar prep (Themis) Tuesday morning. Part of the NY Pro Bono Scholar program.

Man. Brutally difficult to concentrate for how long the program recommends. I hope it gets easier once a routine is established and the studying becomes more interactive through questions, as opposed to outline review and lectures..
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12-21-2017 , 03:18 PM
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Finished finals on Monday night; started bar prep (Themis) Tuesday morning. Part of the NY Pro Bono Scholar program.

Man. Brutally difficult to concentrate for how long the program recommends. I hope it gets easier once a routine is established and the studying becomes more interactive through questions, as opposed to outline review and lectures..
Allowed to take the bar after 2.5 years in February?
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