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09-13-2013 , 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by champstark
If you really are that anal about it, just buy one of those special watches that they make especially for the LSAT (google around).
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Originally Posted by minnesotasam
They haven't fingerprinted in a couple of years. You have to bring a photo now.

They will almost certainly notice a digital watch, though it depends on your proctor. Just buy the $17 LSAT watch online (I should probably get a commission from them given the number of my students who have bought one, but I only recommend it because my students have been universally happy). <1% chance they pat you down.

That being said, as TLS likes to say, YMMV. Prepare for the worst, be pleasantly surprised by better. Proctor variance is off the charts.
Thanks. I checked my registration info and you're right, they don't make you give thumb prints anymore. I've gone through the Powerscore Bibles and did a few timed practice tests that I ordered off the LSAC website. I've done well and hope to get a similar result on the real thing. The timing isn't an issue for me but noise and losing my train of thought is something that could cost me points. If I can get through a question + answers without losing my train of thought, then I'm fine. But, when I get distracted mid-question I'm forced to start the whole question over again. I've done practice tests at home but that's different than doing the test in a hall filled with anxious students. I've also completed a timed test at the local coffee shop and that didn't go well. Not being allowed to wear ear plugs during the LSAT is also a dumb rule.

Also, is it true that students could spot the Experimental Section easily before LSAC changed the format in 2011?
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09-13-2013 , 02:18 PM
In many cases, yes.
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09-14-2013 , 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeSki
I know you get your thumbs printed for the LSAT but do admins also check your pockets to make sure they're empty and/or check everyone's watch to make sure it's analog and not digital? I seriously think it's worth possibly getting my digital watch confiscated for the sake of using it to check my time throughout the exam. I can obv. read time on analog but it's not as precise and costs me a few seconds added-up. I also plan on bringing an analog in case it becomes an issue.

For those who don't know what I'm talking about: You are not permitted to bring any timers, phones, or digital watches into the LSAT room - only analog.
I tried my first case on a Monday after being told that the case existed on Friday at 4:45 p.m. No depositions had been taken and my clients did not speak English. My watch was also analog. (A rolex...given to me as an engagement gift...I dropped it on a tile floor and broke it...and can't afford to fix it.)
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09-14-2013 , 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by POKEROMGLOL
I tried my first case on a Monday after being told that the case existed on Friday at 4:45 p.m. No depositions had been taken and my clients did not speak English. My watch was also analog. (A rolex...given to me as an engagement gift...I dropped it on a tile floor and broke it...and can't afford to fix it.)
You were late for your first case because your watch was broken.
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09-14-2013 , 08:37 PM
General question:

I've just started my 1L year. I'm pretty determined to do as well as I possibly can. In these first two weeks I've read my casebooks pretty thoroughly (while taking notes on all I've read), participated and taken detailed notes in class, and stopped into office hours. I've been in the library until 9 or 10 every night. However, I kinda run out of stuff to do during the week. I usually finish all my readings on the weekend before class. I realize this sounds extremely gunnerish, but what else can I do during the week that will be productive? I bought a supplement for each class- should I start going over it now? I've also received outlines from some 2 and 3L's. How can I best make use of those at this point?

Any help is appreciated.
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09-14-2013 , 08:41 PM
Just study as much as it takes to be fully comfortable with the concepts as they're introduced. No need to exhaust yourself this far before finals.
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09-14-2013 , 08:58 PM
^+1

The main question is how do you feel about your level of comprehension. If after all that studying you are lost in class, then you might want to think about doing something different - not necessarily more, but maybe approach it in a different way. If you are able to follow along in class and answer the professor's questions, then you are probably doing fine and should be thinking about avoiding burnout.

Remember that everyone has a different learning style and what your classmates and other law students are doing/have done may not be best for you. Continuing to do the things that brought you success in undergrad will be more beneficial than changing your study methods to mimic your peers.
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09-14-2013 , 09:40 PM
I feel like my comprehension level is pretty good. Obviously itll get even better once I start outlining, but I went over my torts E&E book just briefly the other day and I was able to answer the examples pretty accurately. I just wonder how I'll be able to distinguish myself from the others in the class, because honestly, nothing is too tricky yet.
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09-15-2013 , 07:25 PM
Sounds like you are killing it. Maybe start researching whatever your end of semester writing assignment will be about if you already know it. Also could just, ya'know, relax.

I feel like alot of the people who are mirroring your time commitment, waste a lot of that time talking to classmates and just generally looking like they are working vs. actually efficiently working. If you are just getting stuff done, then you are likely already ahead of the curve.
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09-16-2013 , 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by diddy!
Sounds like you are killing it. Maybe start researching whatever your end of semester writing assignment will be about if you already know it. Also could just, ya'know, relax.

I feel like alot of the people who are mirroring your time commitment, waste a lot of that time talking to classmates and just generally looking like they are working vs. actually efficiently working. If you are just getting stuff done, then you are likely already ahead of the curve.
This is so true imo. I see a bunch of "study groups" where everyone has facebook up and is just hanging....than those people are the one's asking all the questions/knowing nothing in class.
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09-16-2013 , 02:40 PM
It's hard to predict and know who will do well, though. Don't worry so much about everyone else and just focus on learning and practicing how to take an exam. That is by far the most important thing.
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09-17-2013 , 02:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Rubio
General question:

I've just started my 1L year. I'm pretty determined to do as well as I possibly can. In these first two weeks I've read my casebooks pretty thoroughly (while taking notes on all I've read), participated and taken detailed notes in class, and stopped into office hours. I've been in the library until 9 or 10 every night. However, I kinda run out of stuff to do during the week. I usually finish all my readings on the weekend before class. I realize this sounds extremely gunnerish, but what else can I do during the week that will be productive? I bought a supplement for each class- should I start going over it now? I've also received outlines from some 2 and 3L's. How can I best make use of those at this point?

Any help is appreciated.
After each "section" that you learn, for example "battery," or "proximate causation," or "adverse possession" you should outline that section for each of your classes. If you really don't have stuff to do, you could always go over your notes/lecture notes for that particular week on the weekend.

I'm not a big fan of supplements, but there are people I know that swear by them. The reason I don't like them is that they don't teach you what your professor wants you to know and they don't focus on what your professor focused on. Just like taking exams, you have to know what your professor highlighted during the course and write your exam specifically tailored for your professor.

I had a very similar study regimen last year, but I always found stuff to do.

Nothing wrong with being a gunner, just don't be a douche. Plus, you want to do as well as possible, as it will make or break you at OCI.

Best of luck, mate.
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09-19-2013 , 11:47 AM
Passed C+F Review, getting sworn in today!
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09-19-2013 , 11:52 AM
What's the best place or type of company to search for entry level attorney jobs that are likely to train you? Been in compliance/consulting for a year and a half but want to get into litigating. Thanks!
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09-19-2013 , 12:05 PM
insurance defense baby

stay in consulting
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09-20-2013 , 09:07 PM
Is there any type of change in your resume that happened after it has been submitted for OCIs that you would actually report to either the firm recruiters or the interviewers at your OCIs?

I assume that you would look like a fool if you were pointing out that you have moved from secretary to VP of the real estate club or something like that, but is there any point where this becomes acceptable?

Would obtaining a student editor position for a national IP Law journal be something that you would report? If so, how would you do it?

Obviously you could simply bring in an updated resume if asked for it.
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09-20-2013 , 09:33 PM
Not to be a dick, but as has been said a million times: your grades and if you are on law review are absolutely all that matter.
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09-21-2013 , 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by champstark
Not to be a dick, but as has been said a million times: your grades and if you are on law review are absolutely all that matter.
This
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09-21-2013 , 10:08 AM
idk guys word on the street is that my nationally ranked secondary journal is oozing with prestige. nationally ranked. prestige.
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09-21-2013 , 01:14 PM
No one cares about anything extracurricular, everyone is solid.
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09-21-2013 , 02:24 PM
Didn't mean to rustle everyone's jimmies here.

When the interviewer asks me about my resume at the OCI I will be sure to refer them to my grades.

EZ Game
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09-21-2013 , 06:24 PM
I'm in Toronto too, and I'll be applying for Bay Street jobs too. Law review doesn't matter in Canada (as I'm sure you know) but neither does anything else really, aside from grades.

Mind you, I haven't started LS yet but my two brothers work on Bay. Take my advice for what it's worth ...

Posters here are all American so probably won't help you much.
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09-21-2013 , 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by SolidJax
Didn't mean to rustle everyone's jimmies here.

When the interviewer asks me about my resume at the OCI I will be sure to refer them to my grades.

EZ Game
My firm literally tells us to not offer callbacks to anyone under x% class rank. If u want to give an offer to someone below the threshold you need to like fill out am extra section and other bs.
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09-21-2013 , 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by champstark
Not to be a dick, but as has been said a million times: your grades and if you are on law review are absolutely all that matter.
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My firm literally tells us to not offer callbacks to anyone under x% class rank. If u want to give an offer to someone below the threshold you need to like fill out am extra section and other bs.
From what I'm told, this does not happen in Canadian firms because there's a clear preference toward certain schools.

edit: I've been assuming that OP is applying in Canada.
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09-21-2013 , 07:22 PM
oh well yeah I have no clue about Canada, I just assumed this was standard big law OCI
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