I'm going to be taking the exam in either October or December, depending upon how prepared I feel like I am in mid-September. You and I have similar academic records - I, too, had some academic transgressions early on in undergraduate, but managed to show a 3.4 cumulative when it was all said and done. I've subscribed to this thread and will let you know how it goes. I'll also send off some study materials after I'm finished with them if you want.

Sounds like where you go is irrelevant since you have a job already. Just do well enough to get a full ride anywhere and you should be fine.

P.S. It sounds like you are doing this just for your gf and that is a bad idea.

And school is relevant. I've been in the work force for a very long time. I see the way Attorneys are perceived based on the school that they went to. One of the smartest attorneys I have ever worked alongside went to Roger Williams. He's unemployed now, and I think mainly due to the fact that he was replaced by a Michigan Alum who I personally do not perceive to be as talented.

Well gf is definitely apart of the reason, and I tend to agree bad idea. I make way more than enough money to support myself right now. But I'm single "not married" and have no dependents. So a large portion of my paycheck each week is discretionary income. But obviously as I get older and want to own instead of rent, have a family, etc I probably will not make enough money to keep current standard of living.


I'd love to start now, but just life is getting in the way. I work 9-5 as a paralegal and then nights and weekends I work 20-25 hours in local EMS systems.

Why I chose March, I don't know it's kind of an arbitrary date. I anticipate putting 250-300 hours worth of studying into the exam and figured March would be a good start date. I'm also cutting my hours at work down to 35 per week.


Please keep this thread updated, I'm very interested in your results. I'm subscribed to this thread now and will let everyone know about my progress and decision making as I go along. Thank you for the offer of study materials, but I have plenty my brother just took the June exam!

Cheers

One man's opinion but 250-300 hours of LSAT study seems a bit excessive. I don't think I can even claim that and I studied off and on taking the test three times over 5 years, before finally deciding to go to school.

from what i remember, schools will only look at your 2.4 and not your 3.91. this forum is loaded with people with bad gpas and good LSATs and its possible to get into a good school with a bad gpa.

Yeah the 3.91 means nothing at all.

Yes, I understand the paralegal studies degree won't be factored directly into my admissions decision.

I was hoping to have it indirectly considered by using part of my personal statement to evidence that the student I was 8 years ago is not the student I am today. Is that a good plan? or should I scrap that idea all together?

It's a freeroll, so sure, might as well. Most schools will only care about the hard numbers though.

Starting my job today. Real world is here.

Study for LSAT. Take LSAT. Apply to schools with your LSAT as their average or slightly below. Apply to a few schools with LSAT averages higher than yours. Evaluate.

Honestly I think it's really hard to evaluate your GPA and what it's going to mean because it's been so long. Your LSAT is going to matter a lot more. The worst that will happen is you will get denied somewhere you apply.

You're right DD. And because of the advice itt, I actually signed up today for the February LSAT and my studying for the exam begins this weekend. I'm also going to do research on which prep class to take.

I work for one of 'em, if you'd like my honest take on my own company (or any of the others), feel free to PM me.

Will do. Thanks for the offer.

Dude, the only thing you should be focusing on is getting your gf to marry you. If she's going to be a doctor you just hit the "spousal occupational salary jackpot."

Once married you can stay at home and play video games all day. Your wife will be making 500k/yr and life will be awesome.

Fingers crossed, using my one time on that.

Reading a 180 page, hand-written prisoner's complaint under the Civil Rights Act and currently wanting to shoot myself in the ****ing face. Just so, so bad in so, so many ways. Lady is due to be released in 3 months (after 3 years in prison) but wants to overturn her plea on grounds of coercion (there are none) and get a trial because she doesn't think the witness will show and doesn't want a suspended sentence over her.

So little of it makes sense, but this is a good example:
69. Inmates are literally extorted in order to get mediocre medical care.

70. Where does the money actually get extorted from? Some poor 75 year old mother or sister raising her own kids and her sister's from adult children barely getting by out there left to fend for themselves.

Delusional.

Post results lol.

For those of you at firms: What types of questions do you ask in call-back interviews that you have found effective for evaluating candidates?

By the way, 69 and 70 may be off topic to the complaint, but they're probably not wrong and seem coherent.

+1. Medical care (or lack thereof) in jails is borderline torture. People having to literally beg for medical care (and in some cases pay guards to receive it) is nothing new. The whole system is corrupt.

For example, click on the box below. This is an except from a DOJ report that was released in connection with a case we were involved in several years ago. I don't think you'll get more messed up than this.

WARNING: THIS IS PRETTY DISTURBING. IF YOU ARE SENSITIVE DO NOT CLICK BELOW.

problem is that while all of this is likely very true, nobody wants any part of messing with it. I've talked to a bunch of prisoner's or guys who just got out who have some harrowing tales of their medical treatment inside, and while I believe some/most of it, I'm just not walking into that ambush. It's hard enough to sue a governmental agency, harder to convince juries to trust your criminal client over the cops, and you aren't really sure what's true and what's not. Every single one of them I've referred to someone else who is a lot less likely to take it than me.

I've actually seen some impressive hand written filed things from jail, but they are pretty much always going to end up getting their case dismissed, even if the judge really is trying to help.

Her complaint was denied due to failure to specify a claim on which relief can be granted, or really more precisely for having too many separate and distinct claims. Then I guess she re-submitted it in full (with even more info added) and then she withdrew it to determine if she wanted to hire us to submit one.

On the whole it wasn't bad, she just went off the rails from time to time with stuff like that, making it very, very long and not super-coherent in structure. After reading her multitude of medical grievances I do feel like they ****ed around with her medical care in a retaliatory manner, just not sure if it rises to the level of cruelty. Plus just institutional bureaucracy could account for some things not getting done. Pretty sure she was an LPN so she knew her medical issues pretty cold, and everything she had to say about them specifically could go in something we'd draft.

She also made some accusations after I posted that about a chaplain's program sponsored by private contributors that has turned this prison into his own little fiefdom in which he promotes his own brand of Christanity primarily focused on respect for authority that was honestly one of the more captivating things I've read recently. Not sure how true it is though.

Of course she followed that up with some paragraphs devoted to what was going to happen when she saw Jesus' face.

Yeah that and you have to "exhaust all available remedies" before a 1983
claim (or any claim I think) so it's pretty hard to go through all that.

Starting law school at Michigan soon. Anyone have any advice for my first semester? I've been reading "getting to maybe".