That's insane. FWIW I don't know a single person on our Law Review without a job (and I haven't heard of anyone on it who didn't have a considerable number of offers, although my information is limited).

Yea. It's not the sort of thing you go around advertising though. Plus, a t14 like Penn (your school IIRC) is obviously going to place significantly better than a T20. Even so, I was shocked to hear it was that bad. I can't imagine what it's like at the bottom of the class.

i was on LR at gulc and there was a kid without a job

he wasnt a freak either

Guys I actually decided today being a lawyer isn't for me anymore. True graduation is just a month away, but I can't handle it anymore. I just can't do another semester of finals.

I've dropped out...

April Fools jokes are only funny if other people care.

This just seems crazy to me, our LR cleaned up at OCI to an almost shocking degree. A few weeks ago I had a couple 2L friends without jobs, but now I don't know of any (LR or not). I'm sure they're around, but I am generally tuned into the gossip and just haven't heard of anyone who is currently jobless.

well my year was hit a bit harder by the economy, i go to a worse school and the person supposedly targeted only DC, which is pretty competitive.

still kinda shocking though i admit

and believable

I always thought the reason DC was competitive for Penn (I got my ass handed to me by DC firms at OCI) was because GULC/GW kids were cleaning up. Not the case?

Whenever I hear stories of OMG NO ONE HAS JOBS from top tier schools I pretty much assume it's because they're being too picky. Before 2008 they could be picky and still get jobs, so it's obviously worse, but it seems like every time I dig deeper and say "must be only applying for NYC/DC" that ends up explaining it.

If someone really can't get a job, after passing the bar, from a T14, they're doing it wrong.

After passing the bar is the key. Winning at OCI, doing the summer associate thing and stepping into a job right after graduation is not the path most attorneys take. The entire board of LR at my poorly ranked school had something within a year of passing the bar but only a third had a job lined up at graduation (2010).

there's a lot of GULC kids


"30%" of GULC getting biglaw is a lot bigger of a # than 30% of most other schools

other than like the Thomas M. Cooley School of Law

True enough, but I still would've assumed the LR could safely target DC.

i think so too

you'd have to be freak and very weird dude imo to target DC on LJ (gulc's LR) and not get big law

OR have it be very obvious that you have no intentions of staying in DC. even if you are at a DC school, they still want to see DC area ties or an intention to stay in DC

You all make my spring break doing nothing even better, at least I have something to do instead of outline or read. 2+2 so much easier to retain then conlawwwwwfuk

I have a question. I am going to be applying to LS within the 12-16 months. I go to a no name undergrad. The type of school that admits everybody--not a community college, but the 4-year college where people who barely graduated high school and can't get into anywhere else would go.

I have a really high GPA. Right now it's 4.0 but let's call it 3.94+ if we leave room for incidentals in the coming semesters.

Is my undergrad too much of a joke for any good law school to take my application seriously if I do well on the LSAT? Thoughts on what top of LSAT score I might need and what might I have a chance to get into subsequently?

I'm sure you're first instinct will tell you to tell me that I'll get better answers from my school's staff that might have experience with this stuff. But having done that already, it seems really difficult to get realistic responses. No one who works for the school is going to put the school down, and I'm getting a lot of "you can get into anywhere" answers which I know is probably bull****.

Thanks.

A 4.0 anywhere, even clown college is going to look good. The conventional wisdom is that ITE going to law school is economically unwise, espcially if you have other opportunities. With that said, law school is for some people but you should be going in with your eyes open. Study hard for the LSAT, depending on your score (high 160s at a minimum, i would speculate) you may end up with a chance to get a scholarship/attend a great school

youll be fine. your gpa and lsat is like 95% of the battle. i went to a terrible ug (worse than yours) AND had a bad gpa and did well in my ls applications.

For someone with a great GPA from a ****ty school, law school actually can be a damn good idea if he can crush the LSAT.

Your UG is super unimportant, law schools are playing a numbers game in which the quality of UG is not a variable at all.

so then why do people go to ivy league schools?

Lack of foresight. Or they don't want to go into law. Or they want people to know they are like, totally smart. But honestly, if someone who was 18 somehow knew for sure that they wanted to get into law, I'd tell them to go to a mediocre school and take easy courses.

Law School is unique in this aspect... It matters a lot more in almost every other field.

i got into it with karak and mittens about this but my feeling is that there's like 5-10 UGs worth paying for (harvard, princeton, mit, etc.) and if u dont get into those youre much better off going to a state school than an overpriced private like tufts or nyu.

same could be said for MBA and law programs, although the better alternative for those who don't get into top schools is to just forget the idea altogether.