Doing ANY work before the first day of law school is seriously the biggest waste of time. You'll totally regret it by November. Go to the beach, have a lot of fun, get arrested in Mexico, etc etc....

Somebody mentioned reading 1L, which is fine, I guess. But I think that book is terrible. The part about him popping pills, downing wine, and ****ing his wife the night before his exam just seems so ridiculous to me.

I just liked it because when I showed up and realized it was like 10x easier than the book made it seem, I was relieved.

I read some awful book called "Double Billing" about life at a big firm. Book sucked.

IT was 475 this time, or 525 if you're "late" ie not in before Jan 15 or something. It's funny because I sent mine in the first week of April (takes about 8 hours to do, like they say on it), right around when MA's application was being released. BTW The MA bar application is way easier than MD's.

This thread was a cool discovery, no idea that there were so many law students kicking around here.

I'm starting up at IU-Bloomington in a couple of months. Nice luckbox to commit there then see them randomly shoot up the rankings like that, though who knows if it'll actually boost my career prospects.

LKJ, if you like this thread, then you'll like this one too:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/67...w-review-1652/

everyone else,

can someone sticky this?

Thanks Remi, that looks like a good thread also.

So, as a 29-year-old will I stick out as an old man, or are 1Ls in their late 20's common enough?

I'm moving most of the way across the country to a place where I know nobody, so hopefully being 29 isn't too much of a social handicap in law school.

median age of 1L is probably like 25. assuming you're cool with hanging out with people a few years younger than you, you'll be fine.

What sort of options are there for law grads who for whatever reason dont want to work in law?

In 2 years time im probably going to be one of them..

i dont know many jobs that will hire someone dumb enough to pay for two extra years of law school when they know they don't want to practice law.

I should probably explain it probably works a lot different in the UK.

I get my tuition free off the government (cool or what) and study it alongside my day job. I have an interest in law and also figured it would look good on the CV. I just dont really have any interest in practicing it. Now my day job appears to be going completely t*ts up, and the 'back up' becomes the reality i've realised im not that into law as a profession and am looking into other options.

How difficult would it be to get into, under normal circumstances (not this f*cked up world), investment banking for example? Any other common avenues associated with it?

Cheers,

Matt.

See, if you had provided some of these hints in the previous, I woulda known you were from UK and given better advice.

Kind of in the same boat here, I do not really see myself working as a legal professional. Ah well I have to finish my master first anyways so maybe I will rediscover the joy in law later on. p.s. Isn't the tuition for your master far more expensive than for your bachelors in the UK?

Have to write an essay on developing countries - international trade law at the moment, anyone here who wants to come up with a subject for me?

Being as this is a poker forum, why don't you just play poker?

Or just work as a paralegal. Easier hours, you'd basically dominate since you know so much substantive law, etc.

What the **** is your problem? You're the biggest vagina on this forum.

I wish I could. I dont think im good enough or dedicated enough to really make it a worthwhile pursuit.

My best friend is a paralegal and tbh im not sure if I would enjoy it.

What kind of master did you do/are you doing? I guess that will be a big factor in what jobs you could be looking at, when you found one it probably isn't that hard to start growing from there, but you definately do no want to start too low in the chain.

And poker well it depends on how long it is going to last/how good you are at it. But earning between 3k-10k a month isn't an alternative for a normal job at least for me it isn't. What if it all falls down in three years? I will have to take some freshen up courses again and it will be harder to find a job.
If I thought I could make 20k+ a month with poker it would obviously be a whole different story.

The guy left it ambiguous that he was at a US law school finishing his first year. If after my first year of law school I said "I don't want to be a lawyer, but I will pay $100k and spend two years of my life finishing this law degree" I would consider that to be a dumb statement.

I have some queries for the great 2p2 law minds about my prospects of getting into law school. I graduated last year from a state school(western Illinois university fwiw) with a 3.15 gpa and a major in history. I would like to go to law with the intention of doing criminal defense. I have yet to take a practice LSAT or anything like that, but I was wondering if you folks could give me any general information/websites that could help me move along in this direction.

It seems as though this thread is geared towards biglaw grinders and that's not really what I would like to do. I have never terribly worried about making cash hand over fist. Does that mean I will be able to go to a lower ranked school and still get a job defending criminal types?

I am still at the start of my search, so any help would be great.

For LSAT, get these books (and preferably do them in this order):
-powerscore logical reasoning bible
-powerscore logic games bible
-LSAC superprep
-every LSAT practic test there is (about 50 of them, you can buy the new ones on the LSAC website and the older ones are in books titles '10 real practice LSAT's,' 'The next 10...' etc. etc.

If you know you want to do public defender type work, my guess is that region should trump rank for you (assuming non t-14), but 2l's/3l's can answer this better.

srs overkill imo

Well, I still think 30+ is necessary for 90% of people if you want to reach your peak score

With a 3.1 and an average or even slightly below average LSAT you should be fine as far as getting into a law school. My undergrad gpa was horrible, but I got into everywhere that I applied (granted, I didn't waste the time applying to top schools.) Find a law school review book, most of them will have GPA and LSAT score requirements for each school.

If you want to do trial work, the prestige of a school is not important and may be counter productive to be honest. Find a place where you can get a practical education. Once you are out of school, your work will speak for itself.

You can always make a living on court appointed cases while your practice builds up or bigger and better things come along

got my grades back. final law school gpa is 3.499. i can round that up right?

1L- 3.7

2L- 3.4

3L- 3.1

(works out because 1L had eight million credits and I did a bunch of nongraded LR and clinics 2L/3L)

Yay for 1L year being most important!

Thanks for the advice, I will be getting those books and trying a practice LSAT asap.

Also, if I take the LSAT multiple times will the schools I apply to know all of the scores? or only the highest?