Joseph Heller still dead, still at 76 (and other celebrity deaths): RIP Hank Aaron and Willie Mays - Page 81 - The Lounge Discussion and Review on Literature, Arts, Culture

Two Plus Two Forums 2+2 Communities The Lounge: Discussion+Review

Joseph Heller still dead, still at 76 (and other celebrity deaths): RIP Hank Aaron and Willie Mays

Post Reply Subscribe

...

Page 81 of 230

First

31 61 71 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 91 101 131 181

Last

Page 81 of 230

First

31 61 71 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 91 101 131 181

Last

01-15-2018 , 03:45 PM

#2001

Lattimer

I is smart

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 15,463

Saw them live in '02 at an outdoor Boston venue on a cool damp April night. Still one of the better shows I've been to.

Quote

01-15-2018 , 04:08 PM

#2002

Zeno

Le Misanthrope

Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 22,617

Loved her voice - haunting and beautiful. Apparently she was bi-polar. I've friends with this same disorder. Anyway, she was only 46 - cause of death was ????

Quote

01-15-2018 , 04:54 PM

#2003

chillrob

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 23,160

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeno

Loved her voice - haunting and beautiful. Apparently she was bi-polar. I've friends with this same disorder. Anyway, she was only 46 - cause of death was ????

Almost certainly suicide. It's a shame, but society still doesn't treat depression and related mental illnesses as legitimate diseases, despite them taking the lives of more young-ish people than any other cause.

Rest in peace, lady with the beautiful tortured voice....

Quote

01-15-2018 , 07:40 PM

#2004

Dominic

Tripod

Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 75,374

There is no reason to assume she killed herself! What the hell, Man?

She had health problems last year and had to cancel a tour, but was in the middle of recording and had just done a few performances.

Quote

01-15-2018 , 07:52 PM

#2005

chillrob

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 23,160

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dominic

Do you seriously not think that is the most likely reason? For someone in her mid 40s with no known serious illnesses other than mental? I read nothing about any other health problems other than back pain.

Did you somehow infer that I had anything but the greatest sympathy for her if that turns out to be the cause?

If you think my post implied I thought anything bad about the deceased, you are contributing to the stigma society attaches to brain illnesses.

Quote

01-15-2018 , 08:06 PM

#2006

darksideofthewal

adept

Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 858

Can we maybe not argue about this right now? I'm sure more details will emerge in the next couple of days, but for now just appreciate her music.

Quote

01-15-2018 , 10:47 PM

#2007

John Cole

Lounge Nighthawk

Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 19,202

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dominic

Dolores O’Riordan, lead singer of The Cranberries, dead at 46.

A unique voices of the 90s and singer of one of my all-time favorite songs.

One of my favorites, too, and the video is terrific, especially if you've seen Alphaville.

Sent from my Moto G (4) using Tapatalk

Quote

01-15-2018 , 11:09 PM

#2008

Dominic

Tripod

Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 75,374

Quote:

Originally Posted by chillrob

46 year old people die all of the time without having killed themselves. I just think it's rather presumptuous to assume that.

Quote

01-15-2018 , 11:45 PM

#2009

Phat Mack

Twat-Waffle

Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 12,688

Quote:

Originally Posted by darksideofthewal

Can we maybe not argue about this right now? I'm sure more details will emerge in the next couple of days, but for now just appreciate her music.

Yes, please, let's listen to the music.

Quote

01-16-2018 , 02:58 AM

#2010

Mac>DaWade

journeyman

Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 279

Quote:

Almost certainly suicide.

Quote:

There is no reason to assume she killed herself! What the hell, Man?

I agree, wtf? I would put it far from “almost certain”. Maybe 20-33%.

Quote:

Can we maybe not argue about this right now?

Definitely not the place for that argument. After they reveal the cause is the right time. That way everyone can pretend they knew.

She was a rock icon. Huge following in the US, but this is especially tough for the Irish. I can’t be the only one itt from that era who thought Zombie was beyond annoying. It’s a shame she’s gone.

Quote:

If you think my post implied I thought anything bad about the deceased, you are contributing to the stigma society attaches to brain illnesses.

Maybe dial it down a bit. This is a convo between tards in a vacuum.

Quote

01-16-2018 , 03:01 AM

#2011

Gioco

veteran

Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,417

Edwin Hawkins, Grammy Award winner, who arranged and updated "Oh Happy Day" into a major hit that was subsequently covered by many artists, died in Pleasanton, California on Monday, January 15, 2018, of pancreatic cancer.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/15/o...av=bottom-well

Quote

01-16-2018 , 03:25 AM

#2012

chillrob

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 23,160

Again, I don't see why anyone would be offended by my offering the likely cause of death and expressing sympathy for her illness after someone asks.

I very much enjoyed her music and the news saddens me greatly. I may have overreacted to Dominic's comments because (as others I'm sure have gathered), I can personally relate to her mental health issues and don't like them being stigmatized. Unfortunately, I can also just recently relate to the severe back pain and how it could push anyone over the edge.

Various news sources online state she attempted to commit suicide at least twice before, once in 2013 and once at some point before 2012.

Last edited by chillrob; 01-16-2018 at 03:31 AM.

Quote

01-16-2018 , 12:08 PM

#2013

daveT

S.A.G.E. Master

Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 23,955

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mac>DaWade

I can’t be the only one itt from that era who thought Zombie was beyond annoying.

I thought the song was annoying as well, but the band has plenty of other good songs and I recall the album was quite.

Even if I don't like the song, Zombie was something unique and unlike anything else that was out at the time.

Quote

01-16-2018 , 04:03 PM

#2014

Dominic

Tripod

Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 75,374

Rob, I was not denigrating mental illness. I was only surprised that you immediately went to suicide as her cause of death. While that is certainly possible, I just hope it isn’t, because it would make her death even more tragic.

And Zombie was hugely important to Ireland at the time...so even though some of you think it’s annoying, it did a lot of good. Which is more than most songs can say.

Quote

01-16-2018 , 09:40 PM

#2015

Dominic

Tripod

Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 75,374

Here's a nice bit on "Linger":

Dolores O’Riordan wasn’t the original singer for the Cranberries. Back in Limerick circa 1989, when they were still called the Cranberry Saw Us, some other guy was their frontman; when he left, he recommended O’Riordan through a friend of a friend. She was 19. As soon as she joined the band, they achieved greatness, instantly, like alchemy. In the Cranberries’ 1995 Rolling Stone cover story, she remembered a cassette that guitarist Noel Hogan gave her after their first meeting. “They were just chord sequences that kept repeating, and then there might be a change for two chords,” she said. “But I liked the way there was loads of freedom.” That was enough for her to write the words and melody to “Linger,” which is not just the definitive Cranberries song but one of the best pop songs of all time.

“Linger” is about having a crush that you wish you could forget about. The chorus is a complaint: “You’ve got me wrapped around your finger/ Do you have to let it linger?” Someone has let her down, and she’s annoyed with herself for still caring. Those are the words. But everything else in the song — O’Riordan’s impossibly tender vocals, the orchestral swoon, the just-this-side-of-shoegaze guitars — says otherwise. “Linger” is really about luxuriating in that let-down feeling, letting it swirl around you like special romantic stardust, hoping it lasts forever. Everyone who’s been 19 has felt this way at some point, like your unrequited love is simultaneously the most painful thing in the history of the world and the most beautifully meaningful. It’s one of the ultimate “hey, I made you a mixtape” songs, and it still sounds perfect in the streaming age. Even punks love this song, because “Linger” goes beyond genre, beyond time and space. If I were making a new version of the Voyager Golden Record, I’d totally put this on there. “Linger” is eternal.

Quote

01-19-2018 , 11:51 PM

#2016

coolnout

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 12,430

Tom Petty accidental overdose with fentanyl

Prince opiod Fentanyl

Dolores O'Riordan (authorities found counterfeit fentanyl near the bed)

Last edited by coolnout; 01-19-2018 at 11:59 PM.

Quote

01-20-2018 , 12:03 AM

#2017

katyseagull

mortified by a dream

Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 18,379

I just saw the news about Tom Petty. What a total bummer. Apparently he had fentanyl, oxycodone, and sedatives in his system. Pain meds and benzos are a dangerous combination. Why do people ignore the warnings? Such a huge loss.

Quote

01-20-2018 , 01:32 AM

#2018

Dominic

Tripod

Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 75,374

He had just found out that his hurt hip was actually broken.

Quote

01-20-2018 , 10:17 AM

#2019

Gioco

veteran

Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,417

Chef Paul Bocuse, celebrated for his cooking innovations within a French tradition, dead at age 91 on Saturday, January 20, 2018, near Lyon, France.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/20/o...T.nav=top-news

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...=.e48434e40242

and Anthony Bourdain (I've seen this so many times): https://www.cnn.com/video/shows/anth...yon/index.html

Last edited by Gioco; 01-20-2018 at 10:23 AM.

Quote

01-20-2018 , 02:57 PM

#2020

Dominic

Tripod

Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 75,374

wait, Anthony Bourdain died?? I'm confused.

Quote

01-20-2018 , 03:28 PM

#2021

EnglishLad72

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 26,656

And was Fentanyl involved somehow

Quote

01-20-2018 , 04:27 PM

#2022

golfnutt

banned

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 5,966

Quote:

Originally Posted by EnglishLad72

And was Fentanyl involved somehow

All the rage.

The medical examiner's news release said the autopsy found these drugs in Petty's system: fentanyl, oxycodone, acetyl fentanyl and despropionyl fentanyl, which are opioids; temazepam and alprazolam, which are sedatives; and citalopram, an antidepressant.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn...ath/index.html

Quote

01-20-2018 , 08:33 PM

#2023

NhlNut

KANGZ

Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 18,309

Quote:

Originally Posted by EnglishLad72

And was Fentanyl involved somehow

No, but I'm pretty sure butter was.
Bocuse was a huge name in the culinary industry.

Quote

01-21-2018 , 04:33 AM

#2024

Gioco

veteran

Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,417

Jim Rodford, a bassist with the Kinks, Zombies, and Argent, dead at age 76 from a fall on stairs, on Saturday, January 20, 2018.

https://www.theguardian.com/music/20...ord-dies-at-76

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/n...-at-76-w515670

Quote

01-23-2018 , 10:40 AM

#2025

Gioco

veteran

Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,417

Hugh Masekela, known for his 1968 hit "Grazing in the Grass," died at age 78, in Johannesburg, South Africa on Tuesday, January 23, 2018, from prostate cancer.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...=.c19bf9bb3daf

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/23/o...e=sectionfront

Quote

Page 81 of 230

First

31 61 71 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 91 101 131 181

Last

Post Reply Subscribe

...

Page 81 of 230

First

31 61 71 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 91 101 131 181

Last