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03-29-2011 , 04:38 PM
Wich two fighters do you want to see compete the most?

With all the teasing of a Manny Pacquiao Vs Floyd Mayweather going toe to toe i realy want this to happen, they both wont fight as they both cant agree to each others terms wich is pointless, i dont think either of them have much more to prove in the boxing world, but, this would be truely spectacular.

Pacquiao's up and coming fight will be against Shane Mosley on the 7th May, this will be a very entertaining fight, but i think could very well go the same way as the "dream fight" Manny Pacquiao Vs Oscar De La Hoya, for the simple fact the geezer is getting on abit, but still a very good fighter in my eyes

Mayweather, Pacquiao & Mosley all have at least one thing in common, they all fought and defeated De La Hoye (who in his peak would crush all 3). That being said Mosley fight vs De La Hoye was by far the best out of the 3, putting that all down to youth.

Anybody have other wanted match ups
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03-30-2011 , 05:45 PM
Manny Pacquiao v. Butterbean
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03-30-2011 , 07:06 PM
Not even worth talking about until somebody makes a winner-loser split mandatory instead of predetermined takes.

Pacquiao-Mayweather would have been awesome 2-3 years ago but not so much anymore. Neither is getting younger.
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03-30-2011 , 07:10 PM
I use to love boxing. My dad and I followed some of the minor league circuit. Sadly the UFC has killed so much interest in the sport and even I lost touch.
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03-30-2011 , 08:11 PM
UFC didn't kill interest in the sport, the fighters dancing around and turtling for 10 rounds because they both have huge guaranteed paydays killed interest in the sport. UFC just jumped in and took advantage of the vacuum.
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03-30-2011 , 08:39 PM
I definitely want to see Pacquiao v Mayweather. That is the best match up available right now. Floyd is the best technical boxer on the planet right now and Pacquiao has a unique style and seems unstoppable, sucks that they are delaying this awesome fight.

I love the heayvweight division but there is just not many good match ups there besides Vitali fighting Wladimir. Maybe an interesting match up between one of them and Haye or Povetkin. But the Klitschkos, with their experience and serious training, should make short work of those two.
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03-30-2011 , 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by moneybag09
Mayweather, Pacquiao & Mosley all have at least one thing in common, they all fought and defeated De La Hoye (who in his peak would crush all 3).
You won't find many boxing people (including me) agreeing with that statement. BTW there's a pretty cool boxing thread in SE, come along sometime.
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03-30-2011 , 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Zeth
UFC didn't kill interest in the sport, the fighters dancing around and turtling for 10 rounds because they both have huge guaranteed paydays killed interest in the sport. UFC just jumped in and took advantage of the vacuum.
I think it had more to do with big name heavies fighting once a year (if that), and big names being unable to clash due to the promoters. The immediacy of UFC totally pwned the boxing world.

It's unfortunate because boxing is an awesome sport but it killed itself.

My dream matchup would have been a 22-year old Tyson vs. a veteran Ali. Such different fighters but both so dominant. And no I'm not trying to spark a debate on this. I just think it would be an interesting match.

Last edited by prohornblower; 03-30-2011 at 11:46 PM.
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03-31-2011 , 03:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Zeth
UFC didn't kill interest in the sport, the fighters dancing around and turtling for 10 rounds because they both have huge guaranteed paydays killed interest in the sport. UFC just jumped in and took advantage of the vacuum.
I agree with you but the reality is many boxing fans are over 50 and most UFC fans under 40. It is not looking good for the future of the sport even if it gets cleaned up.
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03-31-2011 , 09:16 AM
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I agree with you but the reality is many boxing fans are over 50 and most UFC fans under 40. It is not looking good for the future of the sport even if it gets cleaned up.
Well, no, but that's the vacuum the guy's talking about. UFC places a premium on action fights (KO of the Night, Submission of the Night, Dana White publicly criticizing boring fights) and generates a more compelling product.

Also, (and this may simply be a function of the fact that UFC hasn't been around long enough) people are taking notice of all the boxers with dementia, Parkinson's, and other mental problems due to exposure in the ring. What person in their right mind would choose to go down the road of Ali and Frazier (to name two)?
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03-31-2011 , 10:17 AM
Yeah but you could be like George Foreman, how many UFC guys are gonna end up with their own grill?
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03-31-2011 , 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Coffee
Manny Pacquiao v. Butterbean
would just be like working a heavy bag for pacuiao, until he recived a near fatel blow to the skull lol

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Not even worth talking about until somebody makes a winner-loser split mandatory instead of predetermined takes.

Pacquiao-Mayweather would have been awesome 2-3 years ago but not so much anymore. Neither is getting younger.
A agree both in the very prime would be amazing, Mayweather Does very well against fast opponents, but Pacquiaos full on speed mixid with aggression an brawl is why i think he would come out on top, this is why i think Del La Hoye would beat all 3, i doesnt care about getting hit, he used to get stuck pushing forward with his stiff jabbs and speed, both players are bangers who are just awsome to watch, all fighters above are

Tbh i realy dont think this match will happen unless its gonna be a comeback event in the far future

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I use to love boxing. My dad and I followed some of the minor league circuit. Sadly the UFC has killed so much interest in the sport and even I lost touch.
I used to think it was fake! lol, its hard for me to think this will overtake boxing yet, but i thik it will, MMA has always been out there, anything can be great with the right promoting. Boxing has damaged itself, its all about the money these days, like in every sport

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I love the heayvweight division but there is just not many good match ups there besides Vitali fighting Wladimir. Maybe an interesting match up between one of them and Haye or Povetkin. But the Klitschkos, with their experience and serious training, should make short work of those two.
Its been confirmed that 1 of the brothers will fight haye, they wont fght themselfs, im not sure thats allowed, in the UK and US anyways.

Wladimir was ment to fight Haye but last i heard he has abdominal injurey so his brother Vitali will fight instead, Not sure how true this is, but both fighters wont compete in the UK, i think fight will be in germany, a conference confirming this would be nice

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You won't find many boxing people (including me) agreeing with that statement. BTW there's a pretty cool boxing thread in SE, come along sometime.
Good, Debate is good, sweet i did have a quick glance for one but couldnt see anything, ill search now, coul dyou post link just incase, ta

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My dream matchup would have been a 22-year old Tyson vs. a veteran Ali. Such different fighters but both so dominant. And no I'm not trying to spark a debate on this. I just think it would be an interesting match.
I think this would be everybodies dream fight, that fact it cant ever happen in REAL LIFE (for those who were gonna get EA fight night posts in ) saddens us all we can only dream
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03-31-2011 , 10:50 AM
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BTW there's a pretty cool boxing thread in SE, come along sometime.
lol found it, how i missed it i dont know
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03-31-2011 , 01:34 PM
Pacquiao/Mosley will be entertaining...i know Paq is the heavy favorite and Mosley is old, but he pummeled Margarito under the same circumstances, and he really matches up well against Paq. Mosley loves fighters who come at him - and Paq will come at him.

Of course, I now work for Top Rank Boxing, so maybe I'm biased.
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03-31-2011 , 01:44 PM
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I think it had more to do with big name heavies fighting once a year (if that), and big names being unable to clash due to the promoters.
I think this is a big part, a lot more big matchups get made in MMA. Additionally, most fans of combat sports are of the casual variety in that they don't know/understand much about the actual sport. They only care about seeing big fights and how much violence and blood happen in the matches. While a good back and forth boxing match is more exciting then any MMA fight, the MMA bouts are shorter and fought at a more frantic pace. Finally, the long term health effects resulting from boxing are also a deterrent.
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03-31-2011 , 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
Of course, I now work for Top Rank Boxing, so maybe I'm biased.
Really? What kind of thing do you do? Have you met the Bobfather?
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03-31-2011 , 02:40 PM
I'd like to see Oprah box Larry King.
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03-31-2011 , 02:54 PM
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Really? What kind of thing do you do? Have you met the Bobfather?
I produce non-live promotional and long-form material like this:

Pacquiao/Mosley promo

And yes, I see Bob all the time.
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03-31-2011 , 03:02 PM
That sounds like an awesome job, were you a boxing fan before you started and do you get free tickets?

I know Mosley looked good against Margarito but by fight night that will be about 2 and 1/2 years ago which is a long time to a boxer who is nearly 40. I also have a strong feeling Manny will want to win in more impressive way than Floyd did.
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03-31-2011 , 03:14 PM
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That sounds like an awesome job, were you a boxing fan before you started and do you get free tickets?

I know Mosley looked good against Margarito but by fight night that will be about 2 and 1/2 years ago which is a long time to a boxer who is nearly 40. I also have a strong feeling Manny will want to win in more impressive way than Floyd did.
Not a huge fan, but I am now.

Mosley's never been knocked out, so I'm sure that' what Roach and Paq are aiming for.

During fights, I'm in the production truck, and can wander around ring-side. Pretty cool!
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03-31-2011 , 03:39 PM
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That sounds like an awesome job, were you a boxing fan before you started and do you get free tickets?

I know Mosley looked good against Margarito but by fight night that will be about 2 and 1/2 years ago which is a long time to a boxer who is nearly 40. I also have a strong feeling Manny will want to win in more impressive way than Floyd did.
the fight will deffo last all 12 rounds and it will be full on, i loved the mosley vs margarito fight, mosley was in top form and dominated, he finished margarito of brutally, about 5-6 full force head shots, Ouuucha! Id rather have a pete doherty hangover.

Yeah mosley has an impressive record, i beleive hes only ever been knocked down once! never KO'd

Dominic, wow what a fantastic job, i believe i feel a little hate for you lol

Yeah your right, freddy is going to be aiming for a 1st time KO for Mosley, I think Mosley has the most power and Richardson will try to make the most of this

Also wtf was with the plaster of paris wraps in Margarito gloves does this guy realy think he can keep getting away with trying to cheat?
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03-31-2011 , 03:43 PM
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Pacquiao/Mosley will be entertaining...i know Paq is the heavy favorite and Mosley is old, but he pummeled Margarito under the same circumstances, and he really matches up well against Paq. Mosley loves fighters who come at him - and Paq will come at him.

Of course, I now work for Top Rank Boxing, so maybe I'm biased.
I think it is a bad matchup for Shane. His biggest asset has always been his hand speed but Pacquiao is even quicker. He's never been much for defense either and will take a lot of punches this fight. I think it will be a prolonged beating until it is mercifully stopped around the 10th round or so.
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03-31-2011 , 03:51 PM
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the fight will deffo last all 12 rounds and it will be full on, i loved the mosley vs margarito fight, mosley was in top form and dominated, he finished margarito of brutally, about 5-6 full force head shots, Ouuucha! Id rather have a pete doherty hangover.
If you haven't already done so, check out some of Mosley's Lightweight fights, the guy was unreal back then. As for his chin, I think the only time he has been seriously hurt was in the first Vernon Forrest fight. Having said that, I think Mayweather could have stopped him if he haid more of a fighter's mentality.

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04-01-2011 , 10:43 AM
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If you haven't already done so, check out some of Mosley's Lightweight fights, the guy was unreal back then. As for his chin, I think the only time he has been seriously hurt was in the first Vernon Forrest fight. Having said that, I think Mayweather could have stopped him if he haid more of a fighter's mentality.
gonna be comparing more fights today, will be watching alot of mosley and pac, i was disapointed when he fought mayweather, fight just didnt sparkle, as for the fighters mentality i think this was a smart move not turn it into a brawl, i think mosley has they advantage in that respect
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04-03-2011 , 06:07 PM
Everybody wants to see Paq. vs. Floyd, but there are a lot of great potential matchups and some of them are happening. Here are some rundowns and my opinons...

Heavyweight: David Haye vs. either Klitschko. Reported to be happening, although plans haven't been finalized yet.

Light Heavyweight: Bernard Hopkins vs. Jean Pascal. The number 1 and 2 in the division are on for a rematch on 5/21. Pascal is one of the toughest in the business. He beat Adrien Diaconu despite dislocating his shoulder and breaking his hand in the early rounds. Wily Hopkins is the only one of boxing's old timers who is still a force. Their first fight was very crowd pleasing. The winner will likely face Chad Dawson, who may be the best of the bunch.

Super Middleweight: Arguably boxing's best division. I'm most looking forward to Froch vs. Johnson on 6/4 for the quarterfinals of showtime's tournament. Should be an absolute barn burner. Winner of that will get the winner of Ward vs. Abraham. And the winner of that will likely take on Lucian Bute. There's also the possibility of Bute vs. Pavlik. All of these are high quality, action-style fights.

Middleweight: Sergio Martinez vs. David Lemieux. Sergio Martinez is arguably a better p4p fighter than Floyd or Paq. Lemieux is boxing's hottest prospect 25-0 with 24 KOs against good competition. If Lemieux beats Marco Rubio this Friday on ESPN2, he is Martinez's mandatory challenger. This has fight of the decade potential. I'm more excited for this than any potential matchup.

Welterweight: Floyd vs. Paq. Enough said.

Light Welterweight: Tim Bradley vs. Amir Khan. These are the #1 and #2 fighters in the division. Bradley already has a fight scheduled for 7/23 against an unnamed opponent. Khan has a cakewalk against a fellow Brit on 4/16. If/when Khan wins this fight he'll likely be Bradley's opponent. It might not be the most exciting fight given Bradley's style, but you can't complain about two top 10 p4p boxers going at it.

Featherweight: JuanMa Lopez vs. Yuriorkis Gamboa. An absolutely awesome fight between the two best in the division that may not happen since JuanMa and promoter Bob Arum don't seem to want to have anything to do with Gamboa. Featherweight is a stacked division that also features p4p superstars Chris John, Celestino Caballero, and Hozumi Hasegawa. So even if the JuanMa/Gamboa doesn't happen there's plenty to be excited about here.

Bantamweight: Joseph Agbeko vs. Anselmo Moreno. Agbeko is incapable of having anything but a kickass, entertaining bout. The two meet in the finals of showtime's tournament on 4/23 and the undercard looks fantastic too. The winner facing Nonito Donaire has mega-fight potential. This is one of my favorite divisions. Bantam's don't get the credit they deserve because they're only 118 pounds, but the division is loaded and all the top guys have crowd pleasing styles.
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