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Beware Mr. Baker: (documentary about Ginger Baker) Beware Mr. Baker: (documentary about Ginger Baker)

12-10-2012 , 10:22 AM
I just saw this last night.



If you have any interest in classic rock or drummers, this is a must-see. The film-maker gathers a lot of great archival material. And Baker is a pretty fascinating character. I also think that the film makes some interesting choices that enliven the documentary format.

I don't think the reviews do the movie justice, but here are some snippets anyway:

http://www.variety.com/review/VE1117947335/

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When a documentary begins with its subject using his crutch to deliver a vicious blow to the director's nose, it's reasonably safe to expect less-than-smooth sailing ahead. And sure enough, the teasing possibility that other outbursts may disrupt the uneasy alliance between legendary drummer Ginger Baker and filmmaker Jay Bulger provides an underlying tension to the aptly titled "Beware of Mr. Baker." Winner of the docu jury award at SXSW, this fascinating portrait of the aging rock god as an angry old coot could attract ticketbuyers as well as homevid renters and buyers after fest exposure.
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"Beware of Mr. Baker" had its origins in a startlingly candid Rolling Stone interview Baker granted Bulger at the rock legend's sprawling enclave in South Africa. (The entrance to the spread is marked by a sign bearing the warning that gives the pic its title.)
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A physical wreck after decades of substance abuse and debilitating health issues, Baker nonetheless proved to be of sufficiently sound mind to share numerous anecdotes about his fleeting but enduringly memorable glory days with the supergroups Cream and Blind Faith, along with stories of his other colorful personal and professional misadventures throughout the world.
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For the production of the docu, Bulger returned to Baker's retreat, where the rock legend lives with his much younger African wife, her kids and 39 polo ponies. Throughout most of the oncamera interviews, Baker alternates between bemused introspection and acid sarcasm.
http://movies.nytimes.com/2012/11/28...s&emc=rss&_r=0

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Relying on the judgment of many experts — notably a squad of veteran drummers that includes Lars Ulrich of Metallica, Max Weinberg of the E Street Band, Neil Peart of Rush and many others — the film makes a persuasive argument that Mr. Baker was the greatest of all rock drummers.
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Mr. Baker was a rocker, in a sense, by accident of birth and association. If you were young, musical and British in the 1960s, rock ’n’ roll was an irresistible career path, and Mr. Baker certainly, at least for a while, lived out the rock star legend to its fullest. But he was by taste and temperament more of a jazzman, captivated at an early age by African polyrhythms and the expansive approach of American drummers like Max Roach and Elvin Jones.
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Rather than keeping the beat, Mr. Baker opened it up, adding layers and nuances without sacrificing his innate, unerring sense of time. He was wilder than steady rhythm players like Charlie Watts, and also far more disciplined and subtle than showboating wild men like Moon and Bonham.
And now, in his 70s, Mr. Baker is hardly in a mood for classic-rock nostalgia. “That was the birth of heavy metal,” he says of the Cream years. “It should have been aborted.”
It may be hard to find this movie near you, but try to find it.
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12-10-2012 , 12:22 PM
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If you have any interest in classic rock or drummers, this is a must-see. The film-maker gathers a lot of great archival material. And Baker is a pretty fascinating character. I also think that the film makes some interesting choices that enliven the documentary format.
Agreed.

Saw it at a film festival here in Copenhagen a couple of weeks ago. Everyone seemed to love it, and having watched almost every rock n' roll documentary ever made myself, I know why. It's simply put together in a way very true to the essence of rock n' roll.

Jay Bulger, the director, seems like an interesting character, I'm looking foward to seeing what he comes up with next.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jay_Bulger

Not to derail the thread or anything, I'm curious, what's your top 3 "rockumentaries" Wynton?
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12-10-2012 , 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by LanceRockford
Not to derail the thread or anything, I'm curious, what's your top 3 "rockumentaries" Wynton?
I'm not the best person to ask, because there are many rockumentaries that I've heard great things about, but never seen.

But to answer your question, I think that rockumentaries fall into different categories, including: those that attempt to inform the viewer of the artists' biographical history; those that document particular concerts or tours; those that uncover rare footage, etc.

As far as concert-type documentaries, I really enjoyed "Stop Making Sense," by Jonathan Demme. "The Last Waltz" and "Woodstock" are obviously very good of this type also.

I have a soft spot for "The Kids Are Alright," mostly for nostalgic reasons; but I haven't seen it in decades, so not sure how it holds up. "Gimme Shelter," as far as I can recall, was mostly good for documenting what happened Altamont, but I don't remember much about it otherwise. My memory is that it was more disturbing than fun.

I haven't seen it yet, but "Don't look back" (about Dylan) looks amazing.

I'm probably forgetting another dozen obvious choices.
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12-10-2012 , 06:50 PM
I really liked A to Zeppelin.

http://www.hulu.com/#!watch/347630

Bob Dylan- No Direction Home was pretty good.

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Martin Scorsese skillfully takes the most artistically fruitful years (1961-1965) of this legendary folk ballad singer...
http://www.hulu.com/#!watch/369243
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12-10-2012 , 07:32 PM
It's not really a doc as much as a concert film, but I really liked Jonathan Demme's "Heart of Gold" built around Neil Young's two-night stand at the Ryman in Nashville.
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12-11-2012 , 12:02 AM
Let's Get Lost about another cat named Baker.
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12-11-2012 , 08:44 AM
It's always good with some outside inspiration. Definitely going to look into the Chet Baker one later on.

This is not my top 3, just 3 good ones.


Crossfire Hurricane

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2370140/ - The new Stones documentary, one of the best ever made. Spoiler alert, girls tend to piss themselves when they get really excited, according to Keith.


The Doors, When You're Strange

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1333667/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1


Dig!

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0388888/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1 - Won't go into details, just watch it, you won't be disappointed.
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12-11-2012 , 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by John Cole
Let's Get Lost about another cat named Baker.
Not a rock documentary, but yes, it was very good.

If we are going to include jazz documentaries, then the list will get much longer.
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12-11-2012 , 12:46 PM
Let's do it.

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12-11-2012 , 12:47 PM
Ginger would have wanted it that way.
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12-11-2012 , 06:34 PM
Fine, here are some worthwhile jazz documentaries.





Also, I saw an amazing documentary on Duke Ellington, but I can't seem to locate a link. My recollection is that the documentary was televised - perhaps on PBS - in the mid to late 1980s. Just searching now, I found reference to a Duke documentary on PBS, but it looks like it was televised much later, about 10 years ago. No idea if it's the same one. The one I watched had excellent footage.
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12-11-2012 , 10:40 PM
PBS also did a fine documentary on Billy Strayhorn.
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12-12-2012 , 09:47 AM
This was a fun documentary, about a very famous photo of jazz stars.

Movie is called "A Great Day in Harlem."

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12-12-2012 , 11:56 AM
Don't Look Back is a must-see. Some of it is available on youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8plaE2qT_gA
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