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04-06-2015 , 10:26 AM
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I liked him in his small role on the TV show Smallville.
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04-06-2015 , 10:35 AM
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for those of you who don't have the book this is a pretty good article written by linson about the making of the edge:

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2002/...e-alec-baldwin
This article is fantastic. Thanks for the link.
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04-06-2015 , 12:45 PM
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This article is fantastic. Thanks for the link.
Get the book. The whole thing is like that, fantastic anecdote after fantastic anecdote. I'm going to reread it again today
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04-06-2015 , 12:46 PM
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Amazing as it is, Robin Williams never found his comedy niche on film. Belushi, Aykroyd, Jim Carrey, Tom Hanks, Ben Stiller, Eddie Murphy, Chevy Chase, Bill Murray, Steve Martin, Michael Keaton, and I might even be missing a few, all had *multiple* roles that showed off their comedy chops better than anything that Williams was in. Tbf, Pryor only had two and they were really early.

I guess Good Morning, Vietnam comes closest, but it still feels like the improv is forced. The next is The Best of Times and he was way against type. Does anyone remember Cadillac Man? Was it even supposed to be a comedy?
Williams was way better as a dramatic actor than a comedic one. One Hour Photo, Insomniac, World's Greatest Dad, and Good Will Hunting are way better than any of the slapstick things he does great in standup but that translate as well to the big screen.
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04-07-2015 , 03:38 PM
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Williams was way better as a dramatic actor than a comedic one. One Hour Photo, Insomniac, World's Greatest Dad, and Good Will Hunting are way better than any of the slapstick things he does great in standup but that translate as well to the big screen.
Don't forget "Awakenings".
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04-07-2015 , 07:09 PM
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If he'd gotten lucky with a couple roles or had the same push from nepotism, he could have become Nicholas Cage (the star you turn to when all the other stars aren't interested).
Just watched Moonstruck and Adaptation again and thought about your comment. Nicolas Cage belongs on this list for me. There was a time when I thought holy crap, this guy can act. And the thing is, he can! But for the most part he has turned into one hell of a wasted talent.
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04-07-2015 , 08:36 PM
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1 out of every 8 Cage movies are worthwhile.
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04-07-2015 , 10:12 PM
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Cusack and Cage don't belong in this thread at all. They were both big stars for a long time who sold out and/or lost their way, but remain pretty big stars. Seeing the Rush thing in the other thread did remind me of Jason Patric, though. He seemed destined, had multiple breakthrough opportunities, and it just never happened. Kinda like Billy Crudup.
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04-07-2015 , 10:46 PM
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lol "sold out."

Actors have to work. They want to work. Great roles are few and far between. I always thought it was funny people blamed Cage or Cusak or whoever for ****ty movies. It's their job to act. So they act. Good movies, bad movies, whatever. And Cage really needed the money.

One guy I thought should've been huge was Aiden Quinn. Guy looked like a movie star and he could act.
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04-07-2015 , 11:13 PM
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Yeah, Quinn was supposed to be the next James Dean. For real, people called him that after Reckless. I'm glad he's at least the lead in the underrated Avalon, though.

And selling out is a real thing. You don't have to choose to do Michael Bay and Joel Schumacher crapfests. And I'm not even hating on Cage. Like BigPoppa said, he's still good every now and then. Adaptation was after all those action films, and then he was fine in The Weather Man, Lord of War, and especially in the recent Joe, he was amazing. But I miss his Raising Arizona, Birdy, Wild at Heart, and Vampire's Kiss days with a passion.
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04-08-2015 , 12:52 PM
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Oh, here's a good one: Mathew Broderick. Wow, he was fantastic in Ferris and his career just never really took off. He did a movie with Brando and then a bunch of other mediocre roles (Cable Guy where he probably took more from the film than he gave to it), Godzilla... yikes.
didnt this guy make like one mega per two and a half men episode ?
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04-08-2015 , 01:58 PM
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Mathew Broderick was never in Two and Half Men.
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Older Broderick at least has Election, You Can Count on Me, and Margaret on his resume. The transition from teen/young 20-somethings into adult roles is tough for a lot of actors and actresses.

On a not completely unrated note, anyone remember Alison Lohman? She had a run of White Oleander, Matchstick Men, and Big Fish where she had so much beauty and magnetism. But never broke through after that. Drag Me to Hell is great, though.
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04-08-2015 , 02:37 PM
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I loved Alison Lohman in all three of those movies. Beauty and magnetism is right. Just a shame that her big films were critically successful but didn't make any money.
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04-08-2015 , 03:14 PM
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I think I remember reading she had purposely cut back on acting or something...
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04-08-2015 , 03:58 PM
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That thought occurred to me, and I hope it's true. I checked her wikipedia hoping to see something like she got married and had a kid around the same time she disappeared, but I saw a several year gap between her last critical hit and when she decided to have a family, so I wondered instead if she chose to have a family as a new focus in the wake of a diminishing career.

Edit: I did find a Pajiba article on her, but they too are perplexed.
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04-08-2015 , 04:04 PM
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Oops, never mind. It does look like she quit to focus on her family. The timing seemed strange to me, but now I get it. She got married around the time her last film released, and they kept the birth of their first child a secret until fifteen months later. Mystery (seemingly) solved.
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04-08-2015 , 04:05 PM
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Also found an interesting article on another actress I thought would be bigger: Thora Birch.
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04-08-2015 , 05:16 PM
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lol "sold out."

Actors have to work. They want to work. Great roles are few and far between. I always thought it was funny people blamed Cage or Cusak or whoever for ****ty movies. It's their job to act. So they act. Good movies, bad movies, whatever. And Cage really needed the money.
Yes, I don't think that most people realize that just having any kind of regular work puts you in the top fraction of 1% of career success for an actor.
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04-08-2015 , 07:56 PM
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Jason Patric? That guy sucked. lol.

Remember that girl Kerri Green from The Goonies/Summer Rental/Lucas? She had like 3 films in a 1 year period (and Spielberg discovered her) and then disappeared completely. I went to type her name into IMDB and it autocorrected to Kerry (sp) Green. lol. Not that she was a good actor but man that girl came and went. She was like the William Zabka of the females.
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04-08-2015 , 08:00 PM
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How about that Haley Joel Osment? Eh? Eh???

...eh?

I saw him recently in Kevin Smith's latest film Tusk. Oh how the mighty child star has fallen. But the dude can still act! I liked him in Secondhand Lions, too.
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04-08-2015 , 08:31 PM
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Older Broderick at least has Election, You Can Count on Me, and Margaret on his resume. The transition from teen/young 20-somethings into adult roles is tough for a lot of actors and actresses.
Broderick was semi blacklisted for a number of years after he killed those two women in Ireland.
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04-08-2015 , 11:01 PM
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[QUOTE=A-Rod's Cousin;46598291]Jason Patric? That guy sucked. lol.[QUOTE]

Rush and the locker room monologue in Your Friends and Neighbors say you're wrong!

And I remember Kerri Green from that Charlie Sheen movie. She was cute, but not much else. Speaking of 80s cuties, anyone remember Diane Franklin?
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Diane Franklin was a goddess.
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Broderick was semi blacklisted for a number of years after he killed those two women in Ireland.
Yeah this seems like a fairly relevant detail. You can't just kill people.
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