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08-23-2009 , 02:09 PM
greenpeace in bbv4l...never thought i'd see the day.
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08-23-2009 , 03:12 PM
shave the whale imo
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08-23-2009 , 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by onesoul
It was stated that they are hunting an endangered species. They are doing RESEARCH as they stated which allows them to hunt where they are whaling. Do you see farmers saying they are doing research on cows but are selling the meat so it doesn't go to waste? LMAO. Imagine hunters going on yellow stone national park and saying they are doing research and killing all the different animals and butchering and selling their meat so it doesn't go to waste. lol

Not many people do things in their lives to make a difference. Lets start with you, what have you done to make a difference? Have you stood up against something you believed in even though you were a minority? Do you volunteer regularly at a soup kitchen? Have you ever worked with habitat for humanity? Did you volunteer to go to New Orleans to help out? Lets see how much you have done since a lot of people do things in their life to make a difference.

As far as their method of being effective about stopping the whalers, I don't think they are that effective at all but at least they are making an attempt and being somewhat successful.
If I wanted to help out homeless people the way these people "help out" whales, I would go throw stink bombs at every landlord and mortgage broker I could find.
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08-23-2009 , 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by PayoffWiz
You are assuming the Japanese would be meeting their quota every year if the Sea Shepherds were not there. Why? There could be a million other reasons why they aren't meeting their quotas.
actually, it is well documented that they could harvest up to 3,000 in the southern whaling grounds each year. that's why the japanese are saying that they are not monsters and are showing some restraint. as long as the irwin is on the stern of the factory ship, there has never been any whaling, until this year. the only way they get whales is when irwin has to refuel then travel back to the whaling grounds and find the fleet. this is a 3 week process. the grounds are only fishable during a very short time in the southern hemisphere summer, so if they don't have their whales by the end of febuary, early march, they have to go home due to weather and temps.

the japanese ships refuel at sea, a luxury that the irwin can't afford. fwiw, the irwin finds the fleet pretty quickly because there is someone out there that feeds them coordinates. it has been speculated that sympathetic parties in the military are giving them satellite data and it is speculated that the sea shepherds have supporters working within the fleet with the sole purpose of relaying coordinates.

also, the japanese freely admit that the "terrorists" are keeping them from their quota. as you can imagine, there is huge $$ involved so all the other problems with whaling were worked out years ago (how to whale in weather, ice, etc). the only issue now is mouth breather and the hippies.

all of this info is available in the many whale war/sea shepherds forums out there.
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08-23-2009 , 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisCo
Does any think that the shooting was faked from season 1?
yes, every hater thinks it was faked, but every supporter thinks it was not. you can find conflicting evidence and support for either side.

it is likely that it was the core of a percussion/flash bomb that hit him, not an actual bullet.

to the people who say it was faked, do you also think the white powder delivery was faked?
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08-23-2009 , 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Computer_Monitor
I'm sure the stupid Red Hot Chilli peppers will bail them out with 250k like they did in season one!

just a couple of citations. please be creative with your linda blair jokes!!

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Sea Shepherd is a legal non-government environmental organization and in the United States has a 501(c)(3) tax exempt status. 80.8% of the organization's revenue are spent on its programs, while 8.9% of revenue is spent on administrative costs.[5] Sea Shepherd is supported by private and corporate donations, Watson giving lectures, advertising of the group on the internet,[6] and grants. Sea Shepherd has received financial contributions from business moguls such as Steve Wynn and John Paul DeJoria along with those from celebrities.[6][7] The group is operated by volunteers and a small paid staff.[6] Watson is committed to keeping his organization small and does not believe in spending money on fund-raising or recruitment.[6]
Sea Shepherd has an affiliated organization, O.R.C.A. Force, whose President is Watson. This organization was involved in the sinking of the Nybroena in 1992.
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Casting Out the Demons (Linda Blair)

Kastle Waserman

Mention Linda Blair's name and people still conjure up the image of the possessed child in the 1973 thriller, The Exorcist. Most would never have thought that the actress's adult years would be spent working with a different type of horror: animal abuse. But the child star, who also appeared in the feature films Roller Boogie and Sarah T.: Portrait of a Teenage Alcoholic, now spends much of her time working with animal rescue and shelter organizations.


In addition to her Farm Sanctuary efforts, Blair works with the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society, a nonprofit organization dedicated to fighting the illegal slaughter of marine wildlife. "I want to try to bring international attention to the clubbing of baby seals," Blair says, adding that she is making plans to personally attend one of Sea Shepherd's seal rescue campaigns.
watson/greenpeace back story

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Recently anti-whaling activists Sea Shepherd made the news with their aggressive attacks on Japanese research vessels, pelting the ships with bottles filled with acidic rancid butter.

This dramatic protest was decried as terrorism by Japan, and generally frowned upon by other environmentalists as being too radical to be effective.

With Sea Shepherd in the news, some old confusion linking the organization to Greenpeace has surfaced again. To avoid any negative attention, Greenpeace issued a statement explaining their shared history, and outlining the difference between the two organizations.

Paul Watson, the founder of Sea Shepherd, was a part of the Greenpeace leadership -- although not a founder as he sometimes claims -- until they kicked him out in 1977.

Basically it sounds like Watson wanted to pursue more aggressive (i.e. violent) tactics than the rest of the group. The disagreement was disruptive to the group, and the other leaders decided to move forward without him, staging their own dramatic but peaceful protests.

This is exactly the kind of schism that anti-environmental groups love, but it sounds like the story here is that it's a non-story. This all happened thirty years ago!

The important part is that there are two groups, both of whom are against whaling. Whether you agree with the need for violent action or prefer to support the Greenpeace-ful method, killing whales is reprehensible and must stop. The end.
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08-23-2009 , 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by RHFiend
If I wanted to help out homeless people the way these people "help out" whales, I would go throw stink bombs at every landlord and mortgage broker I could find.
IF is a BIG WORD, IF I did this or IF I did that. Its just a lot of smoke, its not what you are going to do. Its what you have done. You don't help the homeless and you won't. So whats your point? Lets talk about something you've done and not what you haven't done cause there are too many of those.
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08-23-2009 , 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by onesoul
IF is a BIG WORD, IF I did this or IF I did that. Its just a lot of smoke, its not what you are going to do. Its what you have done. You don't help the homeless and you won't. So whats your point? Lets talk about something you've done and not what you haven't done cause there are too many of those.
First, you're right I wouldn't do that, because I would be arrested and thrown in jail if I did that. But, you see the people on this show being worshiped for their terrorism.

Second, I don't know why you think that I have never helped homeless people. I have never worked in a soup kitchen, but I certainly have done more than my fair share to help the less fortunate. The point I was making in my previous post was that their methods of preventing whale hunting are very futile, just as throwing stink bombs at landlord would be.

Third, I do have causes I support, like the discrimination of atheist people in the United States. But, I figure I wouldn't mention that in a thread about whale hunting.
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08-23-2009 , 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by RHFiend
First, you're right I wouldn't do that, because I would be arrested and thrown in jail if I did that. But, you see the people on this show being worshiped for their terrorism.

Second, I don't know why you think that I have never helped homeless people. I have never worked in a soup kitchen, but I certainly have done more than my fair share to help the less fortunate. The point I was making in my previous post was that their methods of preventing whale hunting are very futile, just as throwing stink bombs at landlord would be.

Third, I do have causes I support, like the discrimination of atheist people in the United States. But, I figure I wouldn't mention that in a thread about whale hunting.
Well I guess our first problem is. If you view what the whalers are doing as being ok then yea, they are terrorists. I don't see it that way, I see the whalers as being wrong and the volunteers protesting but on a higher level. Its good to see people supporting difference causes but too many people talk a lot out their a$$ and only a few actually do it.

So many people come out and say how stupid the protesters are and what they are doing but its easy to sit at home from your computer and point fingers.
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08-23-2009 , 09:28 PM
Op is a complete idiot and really should have done some home work
on Watson and the SS before posting. I would suggest reading the artical I think it was in the NewYorker about him, it will give you a good look at what kind of pos this guy really is. Iyam the guy is an Eco terrorist, who's orginization should lose thier tax exempt status, if anyone know how to make that happen I would be willing to help that process. Who is the op to question anyone about what they would die for he is such a pussy tha he wasn't
even willing to post this under his own sn.
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08-23-2009 , 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by onesoul
Well I guess our first problem is. If you view what the whalers are doing as being ok then yea, they are terrorists. I don't see it that way, I see the whalers as being wrong and the volunteers protesting but on a higher level. Its good to see people supporting difference causes but too many people talk a lot out their a$$ and only a few actually do it.

So many people come out and say how stupid the protesters are and what they are doing but its easy to sit at home from your computer and point fingers.
I don't think what the whalers are doing is ok, but what the people on this show do is worse, because they are putting human lives (their and the whalers) at risk to save the lives of animals, and I think human lives are infinitely more important than the lives of animals.
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08-23-2009 , 10:15 PM
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Op is a complete idiot and really should have done some home work
on Watson and the SS before posting. I would suggest reading the artical I think it was in the NewYorker about him, it will give you a good look at what kind of pos this guy really is. Iyam the guy is an Eco terrorist, who's orginization should lose thier tax exempt status, if anyone know how to make that happen I would be willing to help that process. Who is the op to question anyone about what they would die for he is such a pussy tha he wasn't
even willing to post this under his own sn.

wat???

because your opinion is that he is an eco terrorist, then i am a stupid POS? rofl. nice argument.

as far as screenames used on on internet chat board, get over yourself mr. rubberneck. how is mrs. rubberneck and the lil' rubbernecks?

i will give you credit for one thing. you are the most ******ed person in bbv4l and that is quite an accomplishment.

as far as the artical in the new yorker, i have not read it, but i did read the one where they support people who claim barack obama was born in kenya. nice source, limbaugh. *yawn*. btw, i assume you think global warming is a fantasy created by al gore. amirite?

new yorker = biggest.conservative.pos.rag.EVER
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08-23-2009 , 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by RHFiend
I don't think what the whalers are doing is ok, but what the people on this show do is worse, because they are putting human lives (their and the whalers) at risk to save the lives of animals, and I think human lives are infinitely more important than the lives of animals.
Thats a matter of opinion. I think a lot of people would say their pet is a member of their family and they would do anything for them as they would a human and value their lives just as much.
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08-23-2009 , 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by onesoul
Thats a matter of opinion. I think a lot of people would say their pet is a member of their family and they would do anything for them as they would a human and value their lives just as much.
It is a matter of opinion, and I would say those people are nuts.
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08-23-2009 , 11:16 PM
I can't wait until next season where we'll get to watch all sea shepherd d bag criminals who've talked all season about being willing to die for the whales as they cry their f-ing eyes out at the thought of being investigated for the crimes that they've committed
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08-23-2009 , 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Great post, man.
yes, every hater thinks it was faked, but every supporter thinks it was not. you can find conflicting evidence and support for either side.

it is likely that it was the core of a percussion/flash bomb that hit him, not an actual bullet.

to the people who say it was faked, do you also think the white powder delivery was faked?

The core of a percussion/flash bomb thrown across a boat, exploded above his head, was able to pierce downward conveniently into a badge?

That is pretty cool. On another note, are you ******ed in any shape or form?

You make such a great case for saving these glorious creatures, yet if they were smart they wouldn't die. Great communication skills, family structures, but yet they still swim next to a giant black boat that is obviously not a part of their everyday environment. Why don't they communicate to each other to stay the **** away from the boats? They shoot them in the surface..you're telling me these genius whales haven't grasped that concept yet and learned to dive when they see the ships?


and how have they done anything productive? "I'm going to go throw glass bottles at you that smell!" Yea, it really works. I lol'd so hard when the ***** shot 3-4 whales right in front of 'em and loaded them up. Then the bitch said "OMG i thought they didn't fish when we chased them with our boat"...no bitch

I think a stipulation to get on the boat is you have to be borderline ******ed.

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08-24-2009 , 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Great post, man.
wat???

because your opinion is that he is an eco terrorist, then i am a stupid POS? rofl. nice argument.

as far as screenames used on on internet chat board, get over yourself mr. rubberneck. how is mrs. rubberneck and the lil' rubbernecks?

i will give you credit for one thing. you are the most ******ed person in bbv4l and that is quite an accomplishment.

as far as the artical in the new yorker, i have not read it, but i did read the one where they support people who claim barack obama was born in kenya. nice source, limbaugh. *yawn*. btw, i assume you think global warming is a fantasy created by al gore. amirite?


new yorker = biggest.conservative.pos.rag.EVER
Judging by your responce I think it's clear that the reason you didn't read the article is due to your inablity to read in the first place. Unfortunatly for you I don't feel obligated to slow down and explain simple concepts to you.*Conversly people who can't read shouldn't call people ******ed for obvious reasons. *

If you are the poster who I originally thought you might be I normally try to ignore you as I think you are just a dumb kid who's been mentally raped by a few too many professors and are really only capable of parrotting*others ideas that get spoon feed to you. SoMe day when you grow up you will learn how to think for yourself. So until then just post under your normal sn and stop being a such a pussy, no one takes anything you have to say seriously anyway. *
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08-24-2009 , 05:11 AM
First of all you need evidence to back up the fact of the whales "endangered". I can however give you evidence that the numbers of the are actually speculated and people like Paul watson exagerate hopw low the numbers really are.
They have been whaling for atleast 30 years and presuambly much longer the real truth is they can only estimate the number of whales and their estimations are rough estimates that HAVE to be way off to say the least. There is no doubt the whaling has an impact on the number of whales but as long as the number are managed they can effectivly harvest and yes this is what they are doing HARVESTING them and not hurt the population. I am by far no whale expert but it seems to me this is being done as an endagered species usually doesn't long with a large protion of the species being harvested each year.
As far as what I have done to make a differnce there is a list of things I have done to make a differnce as I am sure most decent human's have done at some point in their life time. What Paul watson is doing is not making a differnce and is hurting his cause. As I said before the money and resources he wastes each year throwing stink bombs could be much better put to use.
If someone was throwing stink bombs at you and ramming your car while you were driving because they disagreed with some thing you were doing that was clearly leagal I'm sure you would be upset and calling the police wanting some thing done. They are not breaking any laws by being there or whaling contrary to what Paul watson say's (this is another one of his exagerated lies) although I am happy he is down there screwing with them then in the US trying to stop me from hunting and fishing although I doubt he would last long doing that as he would probably end up dead in the woods or floating face first in a lake. The good ole boy's around here aren't usually as nice as what the whalers have been to him.

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08-24-2009 , 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by IgrindMICROS
tldr itt
+1
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08-24-2009 , 05:19 AM
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Originally Posted by onesoul
Well I guess our first problem is. If you view what the whalers are doing as being ok then yea, they are terrorists. .
be it or not the whalers are right or wrong does not give them right to do some of the stuff they do. It is their actions that make them eco terroists

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Originally Posted by onesoul
I don't see it that way, I see the whalers as being wrong and the volunteers protesting but on a higher level. Its good to see people supporting difference causes but too many people talk a lot out their a$$ and only a few actually do it.

So many people come out and say how stupid the protesters are and what they are doing but its easy to sit at home from your computer and point fingers.
As I said in my above post if you were going down the road talking on your cell phone and another motorist disagreed with you doing so does that give him the right to run you off the road or ram your car with his??? NO IT DOESN'T
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08-24-2009 , 05:20 AM
Lots of morans itt
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08-25-2009 , 12:53 PM
Hmmm, Linda Blair, still turning heads after all these years.

Whales deserve the same protections as other endangered animals.
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08-25-2009 , 01:10 PM
I ran over a bunny this morning on the way to work. Still laughing about it.
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08-25-2009 , 02:08 PM
read the new yorker article.

this paul watson is no hero. he's about himself. the whales are a close second, but he comes first.
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08-25-2009 , 02:55 PM
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read the new yorker article.

this paul watson is no hero. he's about himself. the whales are a close second, but he comes first.
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2...khatchadourian
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