You sound like a smart guy for sure.

Why is it that so many people who know a little math assume that's the same as doing more work than anybody else?

'cause they are one trick ponies..... I mean calculating standard deviation, hardest.... THING.... EVER.

I do think it's because math is so poorly taught (in general) in the US that people are very intimidated by it, therefore those that can do it well feel it must make them smarter than everyone else, and everything else in life is so much easier, because everyone can write a paragraph <insert random moron that you've seen posting here.jpg>

Yeah but the thing is, everybody else knew that first. When you sound dumber than everybody else in a forum that lives to not give a damn, you're either a genius or a dummy.

Now I'm no 2.8 GPA earning finance guy, but what do you think the odds are of one of those choices versus the other?

ORLY?

I beg to differ, having graded numerous undergrad papers.

Epic.

like I said, I have a BS in Engineering, I've seen some of the greatest writers of all time while in school , this is 100% fact. (Shakespeare ain't got nothing on them)

nice level

What's your wife's fisting μ? Also, does it change with regard to time spent in foreplay?

FYP, because I went to a state university and I'm sick of seeing public sector universities bashed.

So you graduated college and got your degree, and now when schools are just getting started around the country, you're venting about college professors??

Flash backs can be a bitch can't they?

I'd just like to take this opportunity to point out that business (especially finance) is what all the students who have difficult majors make fun of. In terms of amount of work and difficulty of material you all are on the bottom of the totem pole.
FWIW, I didn't have a single professor like the one's you described.

lol finance will pwn your soul

Why didn't you get a degree in Economics?

i felt like there were some professors who genuinely wanted to see their students succeed and would help them in any way they could, but there were also a lot who just had other things on their minds. obviously, research is why they are there in the first place, but they could still at least make an effort to help the students. i had professors who would show up to less than half the classes, professors who would get to class ten minutes late and leave five minutes early, professors who would promise to write reference letters and then just not do it, but the worst, at least in my opinion, were the guys who would tell you whatever you wanted to hear and that you were capable of achieving things that you're not.

of course, i didn't care if the professors didn't show up to class, i'd just leave, but repeatedly being told that i'd definitely get into grad school is one of the biggest reasons that i'm sitting here unemployed.

Prince, your conception of teachers (I am one) could not be farther from the truth. The vast majority of us are competent and LOVE working with our students. In fact, Id say teaching is one of the HARDEST jobs on the planet, in terms of what you have to do.

Think about it, our job is to take a bunch of egotistical short sighted kids (you) and turn them into responsible productive adults (me).

Id say being a GOOD teacher is MUCH harder than being a winner at 400nl online.

+1

OP, you're doing it wrong. Leave school, grow up, and try again later.

Man sounds like you all have **** professors. Mine all seem pretty down to earth and non-douchebaggy but I have never gone to office hours or whatever so I don't really know. Ohh and Tart stfu about state schools. I would much rather go to a state school than some douche filled private school filled with ****ing asshat ***** whose mommy and daddy shell out 50k per semester so little William Montgomery can go become a lawyer.

I had a roomate who was a finance and english dual major.

He told me that finance was laughable compared to english - in terms of difficulty.

Then as an I-banker he said that an entry level finance class was all that was needed in his job and that using his English degree to communicate eloquently and effectively was far more important. However, he did admit that he wouldn't have gotten the job without the finance degree.

LOL @ entry level finance.

Finance on the MA/PhD level is serious biz.

very very true.

finance/investment ideas aren't supposed to be complicated. The best investors/money managers in the world build strategies around simple ideas. its when you let the math guys build structured products like "CDOs squared" that you get into trouble when nobody really understands what the **** they are doing.

The workload in a good English program can be staggering. The econ students I knew, and I knew a lot of them, studied a bit but goofed off a lot and had plenty of free time, and did a heck of a lot of just cramming for an exam the night before. The English students I knew had an enormous workload, were up till all hours and through weekends reading and writing essays, and something like cramming for an exam would have little effect on their grades, which were judged by their essays and essay exams, as well as the sheer volume of sources competently digested.

I suppose it might be otherwise in crummy backwater schools, but that's my experience in a better one.

given that i attended a top notch public liberal arts school i'm gonna go ahead and go with what blarg said.

Hey prince, I (and many others, I assume) would be interested to hear of examples where professors have rooted for your failure, made you beg for a B-, etc. Provide us with some example stories without sounding like a tool in the process and you might get some love around here. FWIW, I think you sound like an immature dude who isn't really understanding how to take responsibility for your own actions, but hey - maybe you ran into Hitler incarnate as a professor. So let's hear some stories.

And for anyone who wants to have a pissing contest about how hard each degree is, you are all morons. You get what you put into it, and anyone who puts worth in a degree by itself is doing it wrong. A math degree is no greater than a finance degree is no greater than an English degree. It all depends on what you want to do and how you want to do it. Comparative worth between completely different professions is impossible and it just degenerates into "whatever I did is more worthy than what you did." So the only people who end up looking bad are the ones who claim their degree is better than everyone else's.

To those who were offended by my remarks about state schools: I'm not saying that all state schools are bad. In fact some of them are quite good, but it's indisputable that some are very weak and have low standards and that it doesn't take a very strong intellect to get a degree from one of those.

FWIW I'm not a big fan of the North American university system where tuition fees are often absurdly high and where there is such a big difference in quality between different institutions.

Teachers to not "give" grades. Students grade themselves. We simply enter the grades at the end of the semester.

This is good stuff.

If you are really trying as hard as you claim, have you ever considered that maybe you just aren't very intelligent? Maybe you should try one of those liberal arts degrees you claim to be so easy because this finance thing just isn't working out. At this right it seems likely you are going to have a mental breakdown.

If you are a teacher, I feel bad for your students.