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I'm sorry, you're wrong. It's a choice. No different that choosing to be a pedophile or have sex with goats. Same choice, same thing. Just because you have the urge to do something, it doesn't make it right or moral.

You're conflating different issues. People have a choice on whether or not they have sex with goats (or whatever), but they don't have a choice on being attracted to goats (or whatever). The same is true of homosexuals/heterosexuals/bisexuals/frogsexuals/etc. And it is this attraction (which they did not choose to have) that categorizes them.

You then went on to note that just because you have a natural inclination to do something, that doesn't make that something a moral act. We're in agreement here, but I'm a little confused as to why you chose to bring it up, as it has nothing to do with the topic you've been discussing. The discussion so far has dealt with you being on the wrong side of the choice/no choice argument regarding homosexuality. Now, if you'd also like to be on the wrong side of the moral/not moral act argument regarding homosexuality, we can go down that road as well.

I'm from Richmond [the more straight, blue-collar part of the Bay Area]

Does that over/under include metrosexual?
[There's actually a few metrosexuals in Scranton.
We call them a**holes.]

Can you say the same about Transexuals?

Op gay?

ASD covered it already, but no, it isn't a choice. You make a choice to act on your attractions, not a choice to have them. And it's OK to act on your attraction to adults of the same sex, whereas it isn't in your other two examples b/c they are criminal activity where only one party consents.

Not really sure what this has to do with the issue we're discussing, but again, you make the choice to go ahead and have sex reassignment surgery, not to feel that you're in the wrong body/should be someone else etc.

I do agree with you to a point, that it may not be a choice to have homosexual attractions, but it is a choice to act on them or not. Where we differ, and where MANY Americans differ, is that we feel that it's not ok to act on those feelings. Criminal or not, consenting or not, it's not morally right. If you disagree, that's your choice, I don't really care, I just don't want to hear about it, and you'll never convince me it's ok, as much as you obviously need to and want to. All choices you, I, and everyone makes in our lives will have to be justified to God one day. Good luck on that day.

Society and the media really need to spend more time talking about this gay thing. I rarely hear about it, and the other problems we have are so miniscule when compared to the gay issues.

Do what you want without hurting others.

Don't expect my support, morally or monetarily.

Keep it out of my face.

Lolreligion

I'm sad for you that you feel that way.

What is morality. It's what people once agreed on, it's a convention.
People who do not act accordingly are being looked down on.

But what is a convention? It's an arbitrary decision by the majority of a group or even a minority of leaders.

So, maybe it's about time to change the rules and the way "many Americans" feel. They are probably wrong about what Christian faith is about.

As a roman catholic Christian I totally believe in the grace of charity. If people are physically created in a way that makes them love people of the same gender they are totally entitled to act on their feelings. They don't interfere with anybody else's right.

Yay! Progress!

No point in continuing then.

Yep.

i dont have a problem with gays because they act gay because they actually are gay

i do hate hipsters tho because they act gay when they are actually completely straight

Really no point in continuing with you either.

You're really not a Roman Catholic Christian then, not that I disagree with you though.

I cant wait to see the look on your face when you die and realize there is no God or Heaven.

I will not leave an organization just because a majority within that organization is wrong about something.
Things can be changed.

Haha it's funny because everyone is so serious about gay people. Who cares? I think about feet. But if someone said I was weird because I like to lick feet. Who cares?? I don't care.. I like feet.

So your god makes one person attracted to the opposite sex and they act on it and that's cool.

Then another person is created attracted to the same sex and it's not cool to act on it.

Seems a bit unfair to me. Maybe it's that mysterious ways thing.

i said a little prayer for his soul

So you're a Tea Partyer too?

Most of us non-religious people are sad for you that you do.

I have a bit of a different approach to this. Whenever I have a gf, I avoid kissing her intensly in public. I even prefer to not walk hand in hand or do whatever else that is just screaming "look at us, yeah, we **** each other". I avoid this, since nobody else ****ing cares (or should care, imfo), so why should I bother anybody with it?
I consider it to be disgusting, when I see any couple kissing intensly in public. GET A ROOM, you horny animals... Don't get my wrong, I love steam hammer sex and whatnot, but I have zero urge to show this to the world.
I feel like this "look-at-us-disorder*" (LAUD) of many couples became even worse with FB/Twitter etc, and now the gays think they want to do the same, without looking at what that actually is. It's ******ed and bothering, ffs. Gay say: "But why should only hetero's be allowed to bother other people with their exhibition of their sexuality?"
**** all exhibitionistic hetero couples! They are the reason that the gays go full blown ****** nowadays. I DONT EVEN WANT TO SEE STRAIGHT COUPLES SUCKING THE LIFE OUT OF EACH OTHER IN PUBLIC, AND NOW GAYS WANT TO FOLLOW ! ! !
**** them all, seriously.



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“...the most obvious, ubiquitous, important realities are often the ones that are hardest to see and talk about.”
― David Foster Wallace, This Is Water






Edit:
Former national team football player of Germany (Hitzlsberger, or so) just admitted that he likes eggs and sausages, all day, and media will not let go of this for month or even years, ffs.