Why don't you try it 100 times and post results?

Browse over material and read that which appeals to you. Then drop the literature and go out and approach A LOT of girls. Seriously, reading will not get you very far at this, it will only give you a blue print. You have to go interact with girls over and over and over to develop at this.

A little, but not really. Girls stay attracted to the same things but their overall importance changes with age. At the end of the day though, it's still chiefly about social value.

1. Depends how much time and effort you put into it. I know some guys who developed very fast because they spent a ton of time working on this and had some natural advantages going for them. I know other guys who have been in this for years and have made minimum progress.

2. Nah not really, I didn't get heavily into this till I was 24 and by that point the college scene had well passed me by.

3. Man, college parties have got to be some of the easiest hook up places in the world. A big thing in college is growing your social circle. Go to parties and chat up/have fun with EVERYONE. Play drinking games, make tons of friends, add lots of people to facebook, organize fun events to go do, etc. At the parties you can probably just natural open a ton with stuff like "Hey what's up tonight guys."

kittyfactor,

If you suggested a drink sometime, then you definitely let on intent. If you're not sure she'll meet up with you based on your text interactions, give her a call and chat for like 10 minutes then excuse yourself (unless the two of you are having a blast on the phone, which happens.) One big reason girls won't meet up guys they met randomly is because they severely fear social awkwardness and being able to carry on a conversation on the phone will alleviate a lot of that.

The more I do this, the more I think you're right. Conversely, Soul is one of the best at this and he's a 5'7" Sri Lankan dude. Still, of the guys I know who attempt day game the better looking ones have a clear difference in results (not that this is impossible for average/worse looking guys, just harder LDO.)

Met her and slept with her the previous night. Questionable whether she continues cause I leveled with her about what kind of guy I am and she's not comfortable with dating a dude who sees other girls. She likes me a lot though, so we'll see if she changes her mind.

This would work super SUPER rarely. First of all, giving a girl your number and not getting hers is awful, they will almost never contact you first. Second, the interaction is so short that even if she did want to contact you, she probably wouldn't know how to lead off or what to say.

Paul Janka is a tall, very good looking guy and he refuses to waste any time on a girl who won't give him her number. In all my life of the girls who have refused to give me theirs and insisted on taking mine, only one ever messaged, and it was the result of a 10 minute interaction. She still hasn't met up though (maybe this weekend, we'll see.)

This technique can work if a huge amount of eye contact is kept during a period of time. Train journeys, seminars or office meetings where the situation is broken up quickly at the end but a subtle rapport can be built with the eyes are great spots to do this. Use it all the time on the tube and have a pretty high success rate in getting phoned back, and gives them control in situations where they might otherwise be intimidated in giving a total stranger their number.

As most women are self obsessed, superficial, power hungry, control freaks kind, sensitive, generous, deep down romantics, a good amount of eye contact that makes them feel unique and wanted usually is enough to get a call back in my experience. Without the eyes, as Bond says, this technique is rubbish and never works.

quality thread

I'd be curious to know how you usually go about breaking this. Seems like there's never a good time to bring it up.

i didn't read any of this but i agree with all of it

Right after you finish getting her a damp towel.

Really depends on the girl you are telling this to, some girls thrive to be the one that changes you, they badly want to be part of something bigger (not saying all girls). One of my favourites is pretending I am a writer who is just very uninspired lately, usually a very easy way to get sex. After we have sex or I get bj whatever they always say the samething with a huge smile
"now you have some inspiration" doesn't matter how much of an ******* I act like.

In this case sometimes telling a girl you like to see other girls is actually what keeps them around, it all depends on the girl.

oh how did i miss this thread.....more giggle material

Can I get you a damp towel to clean up?

you already used that line....and that towel

I always use the towel on myself first. That's super standard.

As immediately as possible. Often it's before I sleep with the girl, but not always. In my experience, the quicker and more non chalant you can tell a girl about this, the more effort you save yourself in the long run.

Half my game at night now is basically talking to girls about what a slut I am; I tell them I have a GF and we're in an open relationship, I show them the scar Kat gave me when she stabbed me during sex, I try to get her to swap sex stories with me, etc etc. It basically screens out prudes and attracts the girls who like the idea of casual sex. I came SO close to having sex in the bathroom at the Aussie Millions after party running this kind of game.

With girls I meet during the day, I often give off enough of a ladies man vibe that they ask some kind of question that allows me to lead into it. In the case of that specific girl I met her through friends at night and the escalation to sex was pretty quick. We were lying there after and she asked "How do you normally meet women Tony?" to which I replied "I walk up to them on the sidewalk on the middle of the day, tell them they're gorgeous, and go from there." That got the ball rolling.

Bond,

What are your thoughts on taking a girl to a café on a first date (lets assume going to a bar is out of the question? The girl in question would not be a total stranger, but rather someone you know through a mutual friend and have interacted with before. How does this sound if you know you have things in common and really want to get a chance to know each other better?

Is this a good thing to do with an intelligent girl? Going out to dinner is too formal and IMO not a good idea for a first date. Relaxed setting that is well suited for discussion sounds good to me?

FF,

Cafes are fine. Clearly a night/bar date is optimal, but a simple coffee is a very common date.

New around the forums,but i play/study/sarge both poker and pickup...Cafe's tend to be a little bit boring and can easily turn into the awkward silence or you trying to hold up a dead conversation, also it is easy to get tossed aside as just another date if you take her to a cafe...i would personally meet up at a cafe, then quickly suggest doing something fun or something will have less stress to hold the conversation for a long time(i mean really how long can you sit at a cafe before it just becomes weird) with a first date... maybe suggest like " hey ive been meaning to grab a new pair of shoes at the mall, lets head up there" then take her to the mall and places around there, it is much easier to relieve the tension of a first date at somewhere interactive where you dont have to keep conversational threads alive... also by moving from one place to another, it creates a time bridge, meaning the girl will get the impression that she has known u longer if you move from one place to another, it creates a familiarity much faster as opposed to ok this is the first time ive been out with this guy..instead you have now been to coffee, in the car, in the mall, in the movies and wherever else with her in just a few hours..also you can use going to the mall to build value by buying something nice for yourself(NOT HER!) and it will seperate you from the 100 other same old same old guys who have taken her to coffee, dinner, walk etc... i would go cafe, mall, stores and by then hopefully you have made enough progress to escalate the rest of the night in whatever way you see fit.

Or in a book store where a woman is reading a magazine/book "Hey! We have a something in common!" *She inevitably asks what/huh/etc* "I too can read."

Gold.

Bond there should be a sticky with a collection of all your tl dr content posts.

Solid game imo. I'd sleep with OP.