Omg. That looks exactly like the hooker I banged last nite.

maybe she should do some of that laundry instead of taking pictures

ABSOLUTELY! I feel sorry for those who live in California and New York. You have no personal freedoms to bare arms. There is only one gun in my collection I would be able to own in california. I wouldn't even be able to own my Sigma 9mm because the magazine holds more than 9 bullets. Thanks to my concealed carry permit and changes in my States laws, I'm always armed.

btw.....more pics of wife.....VN IMO.

Robber was prolly banging ur wife before you got home!

I have/would!

wtf is wrong with you americans and your sick gun-laws

lol

nudes of wife?

Hahahaha. No

I wouldn't live in a country where I couldn't own a gun. Luckily I live in a country that believes in personal protection. I'm not going out looking to shoot somebody and I honestly don't know what I would do if I was in that situation, but if some hood rat (any nationality - not racist) tried to take my wallet he better be prepared for the consequences.

Guns don't kill people, people kill people.

This is true. Unfortunately, as well as guns, America is full of massive spastics.

Well, the only reason you feel that you need to have a gun to "protect" yourself, is because the ease of access to a gun is ridiculously easy for anyone, including criminals.

In scandinavia nobody has guns except hardcore criminal gangs such as the Hells Angels, Bandidos etc. but at least they only shoot at eachother.

No offence, but it's not the Wild West anymore. Here in Scandinavia we even stopped carrying medieval axes, and we no longer sail our wooden boats to england to rob and rape the brits.

First thing to understand is that the US is not Scandinavia, culturally or otherwise. Even here in the US, the rationale and sensibility behind gun ownership (not to mention laws controlling them) can vary greatly by region. People in states like Texas, Alaska & Wyoming are pretty clear about the gun laws they feel are right for them, while other states' residents may have a different perspective.

It might be hard to relate to from where you are since the total population of New York State alone is about equal to all of Scandinavia. Any hope of doing away with guns on a national level isn't happening here, it would be like telling Norway to outlaw fishing. But individual states here have a fair amount of leeway, and I'd agree that more sensible restrictions are needed. But the guns aren't going anywhere, that ship sailed, and you can't really put that genie back in the bottle.

I wanna talk more about those Hells Angels you have out there

QFT.

My roommate basically slaves for the system 8 hours a day so he can afford to drink Budweiser. The only thing he cares about politics is that they don't try to take his guns. If I ask him about things like corporate corruption stripping all his other rights, he said quite literally "if they don't take my guns they would have to take my Budweiser to get me to care about anything else."

Sigh.

As a result our weekends in England are pretty dull now.

Also solid wife.

Maybe he is referring to the children of the Norwegian Labour Party.

OP would prolly get robbed in my driveway

Its not about being in the wild west. Unfortunately OP was in a situation that he was taken advantage of. I will NOT let anybody take advantage of my family. I gaurantee that if criminals knew they were the only ones with guns, the crime rate would be alot higher. I would venture to say the crime rate in Wyoming and Texas is a lot lower than in California and New York because for a normal citizen it is a lot harder to own guns because of those State's restrictions. Criminals will have guns whether they are legal or illegal. I've lived in Texas, Wyoming, and Florida, and the only time I was robbed was in Florida. I grew up around guns but never carried one until I was robbed. When things like that happens it changes your perspective. I'm a constitutionalist....And MY constitution gives me the right to bare arms.

I don't want to offend anybody with my posts. That is not my intent. If I have, I apologize. If I am making Americans seem neaderthal and brutish,......well I think that might be an improvement over what most of the world thinks of us anyway.

I've never been to Scandinavia, but I would like to visit it someday. Although, I gotta admit, I don't believe in Utopian Societies...

BTW....I don't drink at all so they can take all the Budweiser they want

How many bullets do you think guns should be limited to?

Also, you act as if you had a gun you would somehow overcome the criminal, who also has a gun. Describe to me exactly how you envision this playing out. A criminal pulls a gun on you, it is pointed at your face. Your gun is currently concealed in your wasteband. Now what?

This^^ I'm all for people being able to carry guns, and use them for protection, but in my case, having a gun on me couldn't have made the situation any better. Best case scenario I kill someone; who in all actuality is probably just some punk that wants dope money.

Worst case, I go for my gun, he spazzes out and kills/injures me, and my wife and two small kids are less than 10 ft away in the house. And since the door to my truck is still open, all he has to do is push the garage door opener, and he's in................

My number 1 priority was getting this creep the **** away from me and my family. Well actually wasn't sure it wasn't a prank, but speaking in hindsight.

There is two parts to this statement. That I will be happy to address.

The first is the law in california (and some other states) that restricts bullet capacity to less than nine. Most semi automatic pistols, Glock, Sigs, sigmas, etc... all have magazine capacities of at least 10. That means a normal citizen is restricted to a single or double action revolver. For personal protection a revolver is not optimal. the firing rate of a revolver is alot slower than a semi auto pistol. IF I were to use my gun for personal protection I am not trying to injure the person or wound him. Its not the movies, I'm not going to shoot him in the leg and wait for the cops. I'm going to shoot him in the chest 10 times as fast as I can pull the trigger. He will be dead, I will be alive.

The second part is completely hypothetical. I don't know how I would react in that situation. I do know If I pull up to my driveway and somebody pulls up behind me or is approaching me while I'm getting out of my vehicle they better be very careful because I gauran-damn-tee they will be meeting the business end of my 9mm. I wasn't there to see how the criminal approached OP and I am not faulting him how he reacted. I have been in that situation before and acted the same way, but after it happens once you won't let it happen again. That is a scary situation and I have a lot of sympathy for OP.

So let me ask you Javi, since you know so much....Have you been held at gun point? I promise you if you have your view of gun control will be a hell of a lot different. Criminals will always have guns. Everyday tax paying citizens have the right to have them also.

I love my country....maybe not the current law makers per se....but we do have one thing, thats the Constitution of this great country. Every Man's home is his castle....and I have the right to protect mine.

Oh I'm not claiming to be smart here, I'm just trying to be realistic. So I see your first concern is that the magazine limit inherently limits your gun selection. Thats fair. Is it not possible to get magazines that meet the law's requirements? I just wanted to make sure you weren't demanding 30 round clips for fully automatic glocks.

Second, you didnt answer my question about the hypothetical. So give me a few hypothetical situations. See the problem I have here is it seems to me most gun owners DO live in the movies. They dont actually play the scenarios out in their heads. They assume that they will always have the initiative, they will never miss, and they will never be shot back.

But using your own example, someone had better be very careful if they approach you from behind. I assume it's because you might pull a gun on them. Well if they have the presence of mind to consider this possibility, they might pull theirs first. Now what do you think a criminal is going to do the moment he see's you going for a gun? You think he's just going to stand there and see what happens? Have a little Mexican stand-off? Is that what you would do if someone started to go for their gun? No, you would shoot them right? Well they would also shoot you. You have just invited a gunfight into your own home by the very act of possessing a gun yourself.

Most criminals do not want the death penalty. Most criminals do not want to go through the hassle of murdering someone in cold blood for their wallet. If you comply, they will go away. I dont know of that many stories where someone was held up at an ATM, and then just gunned down for the hell of it after giving away their money. However the mere act of using your firearm has just increased the liklihood of being shot by 10,000% (give or take a million). I dont know about you, but I prefer lowering my odds of being shot at any given moment, not increasing them.

Practice situational awareness, rather than your quick draw. Protect your house with deadbolts and an alarm that calls the police, rather than a shotgun by the bed. Use common sense before entering the ghetto, rather than strolling through with a whole 10 rounds of ammunition on you. Most people can probably avoid being held up in the first place. In those instances where there was no alternative, having a gun doesnt seem like it's going to help you very much because it's too late by then anyway. Carrying a gun provides a false sense of security for situations you cannot be prepared for, and increases danger to yourself and anyone near you.

This is where I messed up. I didn't even notice the guy, and that's on me. Like you said, it sure as **** won't happen again.

BTW I also agree with the rest of your post.

Another good point IMO.

Julebag, I know what you went through, and I can promise your whole way of approaching a situation and your awareness will change.....for the better. The best thing is you were not hurt and your family was safe. If you decide you want to get a gun for personal protection please do it right. Pick one that you feel comfortable with and get instruction from a certified instructor. Practice Safe, Shoot Safe.

NFA regulations prohibits any "Citizen" (meaning not law enforcement or military) from owning any automatic weapon manufactured after 1986 without a Class III fire arms dealer's license. Any automatic weapon manufactured before 1986 can be transfered to a private citizen only after being approved and registered with the ATF (also paying the $200 tax). I believe the wording is "Any or Other" guns aside from semi automatic pistols and rifles must go through this ATF NFA transfer process which can take up to 6 months. This also includes short barreled shot guns I believe under 16" barrel length....not 100% sure on the length. You can't have any crimes on your record, they finger print you, the whole works....

BTW...I do have a small .380 which is great for concealed carry that has a magazine capacity of 6, but for most larger calibers, 9mm, .45, etc....the answer is no they don't