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02-11-2010 , 11:38 PM
I answered someone who asked me, i/we have received no apparent punishment.

Why is mac not dead?
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02-11-2010 , 11:38 PM
lol this is hilarious.

wtf is going on in this game.

AAO: Did TEPM help you design this one?
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02-11-2010 , 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by OnThInIcE911
AAO: Did TEPM help you design this one?
Nope.

All me.
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02-11-2010 , 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by McAvoy
Alright, I need to come out, I was roleblocked last night. I never got a peek.

I really am the seer. I faked seer with derwipok as neutral because I knew the wolves would never buy it and I'd be unnoticed. derwipok was not a peek.

Chris was my n0 peek. If you look at my first post of the game, I go after threadcat because he wanted to vote chris over thingy when he had called thingy wolfy earlier.

Then I make it obvious that I knew Chris was telling the truth. As usual, I didn't leave any other peeks but I had to protect Chris because he's the angel.

My other peeks were bsb villa n1 (because I can't read him) and darthrob (villa) n2 because I can't read him and I don't see him as a mislynch candidate.
So any of the following could be true

a) mac wasn't roleblocked by the wolves so they don't believe him
b) one/more of his peeks are wrong
c) mac is a wolf
d) mac was angeled

I'm not sure I actually interpret this as leaning the strongest towards (c), although that's a possibility of course.

We'll need to hear from mac of course, and the good thing is that (c) will resolve itself soon enough, although I have no idea how close to must lynch we might actually be.

Anyway, I have company, more thoughts about this later.
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02-11-2010 , 11:46 PM
in before mac was roleblocked.
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02-11-2010 , 11:54 PM
oh yeah rb'd goes with (d)

The thing is though if mac got RB'd I'd expect chris to be dead. There is definitely something afoot.
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02-11-2010 , 11:55 PM
the fact that night was fairly quick means bsball probably had some obvious/correct peeks

il look in like 15 if no one doesit by then
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02-11-2010 , 11:56 PM
btw that guy didnt have a kill again and if we decided that he was a villager then hes using up a rb which means chris/mac living is weird
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02-11-2010 , 11:56 PM
actually he might just be one of those kill 1 or 2 villas and yuo lose your powers guys
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02-11-2010 , 11:58 PM
I look forward to hearing from mac

And a gave you my shank
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02-12-2010 , 12:01 AM
Have to sleep now

later
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02-12-2010 , 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by well named
So any of the following could be true

a) mac wasn't roleblocked by the wolves so they don't believe him
b) one/more of his peeks are wrong
c) mac is a wolf
d) mac was angeled

I'm not sure I actually interpret this as leaning the strongest towards (c), although that's a possibility of course.

We'll need to hear from mac of course, and the good thing is that (c) will resolve itself soon enough, although I have no idea how close to must lynch we might actually be.

Anyway, I have company, more thoughts about this later.
According to chris's claim, angels can't block the NK.
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02-12-2010 , 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by bsball8806
i don't think TEPM is a wolf...I might be alone in that thinking though
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Originally Posted by bsball8806
housenuts i'm not a wolf, and I think you're a villager (only partly because of your case on me)

stop wasting your time voting for me
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bigger, i'm going to trust you from here on out. don't betray me, you got it?
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i'm a power role too. stop voting me
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meh it's not really that bad

it kind of means that OTI had to be sloppy in wolfchat though
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in before people want to lynch TEPM

i don't think he's ever a wolf
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I suck at finding wolves, but am good at clearing villagers

I can't clear myself usually, but can this game

I almost always make a good vote

no wonder I can't find a real job
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i'd like to amend my villager list to include dmk

xxsooted is also a villager
here's all the bsball posts I found on skim which seemed seer-ish

The thing that's striking beyond just certain potential hints is that I think his reads have been very good. I didn't quote all those. But I think the strongest hints would be

TEPM = village - by far the strongest

OTI/chris as wolves - somewhat weaker

the other villager hints are weaker just because he cleared more than a few people.
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02-12-2010 , 12:07 AM
About chris, right, he claimed not to be able to block the wolf kill. Given derwipok's kinda quirky role, I'm actually inclined to believe he's telling the truth, just because of the weird detail. But I guess the question is, did he divulge that before or after derwi died?
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02-12-2010 , 12:11 AM
i reread d3 (the day digger claimed). Before we were assuming digger is vanilla wolf. but knowing he is wolf seer, i don't think wolves would be quite so eager to bus him.

DMK, 1931 first vote on digger, and pushes him all day 1953, 1957
mcavoy - 1935 2nd vote on digger, talks about it a few times
biggerboat - 1945, suggests digger maybe not wolf. 1973 suggests JD/digger wagons
ewalsh - 1966 digger role neutral. 1974 wants to see case on digger, accuses biggerboat of being wolfy, 1998 digger = villa
well named - 1969 3rd vote on digger, pushes it a few times 2181. 2329 sets a tarp
oti - 2240 predicts digger = villa. 2248 quickly retreats when dmk challenges his view. 2321 4th vote on digger. 2381 says he'd be peeked, apologizes and switches vote 2479 cadaz more wolfy than tepm
JD - 2306,2312 wants to give digger more time, 2360 says wierd for digger to come out then
gotgame - 2320 tepm/digger wagons, 2340 joke about digger in wolfchat
thingy - 2334, wants digger to spew him villa, 2369 tells digger well named was joking, 2530 defends forsyth
tepm - 2408 digger/chris both lolwolves

Points:
Well Named: for setting the tarp that busted the wolf seer, you are cleared for a very long time (due to other villageryness)
DMK: for casting the first vote and sticking with it and persistently bussing, you are clear for at least a little while (due to other wolfiness)

also small villa points to mcavoy (who probably doesn't need them), and gotgame

neutral on thingyman / biggerboat

Ewalsh: this looks very bad for ewalsh
OTI: this looks pretty bad for OTI
JD: looks somewhat bad for jd
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02-12-2010 , 12:13 AM
18 live players, 14 dead, 2 dead wolves, 1 dead neutral

Guessing 6/7 wolves to start == 5 wolves. I don't get the vibe that there are a lot of other neutrals in this game. Maybe just the one SK. But if there were neutrals it would almost have to decrease the wolf count. But there are also apparently vote buying wolves left alive.

So 13/5 means something like 2-4 mislynches depending on the possibility of vig kills, and vote buys and whatever else.

So the question is, if wolves don't resolve some of the open claims, at what point should we do so?
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02-12-2010 , 12:13 AM
i think the best vote today is probably

oti
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02-12-2010 , 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by DiggertheDog
Samuel Jackson its my beer!
lol digger just saw this
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02-12-2010 , 12:14 AM
well or maybe just vote buying villagers. that would be nice.
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02-12-2010 , 12:15 AM
wow, it's day again

lol@ bsball's role being included in the game ... I looked it up on google, turns out he and his mason were never even shown, they were just mentioned by sucre

I'mma go read bsball for peeks
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02-12-2010 , 12:17 AM
jesus christ he posted a lot
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02-12-2010 , 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by DiggertheDog
Good morning.
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Originally Posted by well named
sup digger you got peeked.

lolcats plz
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What?
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@ Digger

Please spew me more villa, so there's no doubt about my role.
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This makes no sense, if it is true.
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I think you are villa but I cant spew anything because I am not a wolf.
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No, you guys have managed to out me as seer two games running. Farking great work.

and f too.
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Originally Posted by Thingyman
what... Was this a claim?

You can't be serious? We were just joking. You were not in my top 3 choices for wagons and you certainly weren't doomed.
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Originally Posted by DiggertheDog
Charles Westmoreland

You are a seer, with no N0 peek.

N1: Ace of Spades = villa
N2: OTI = villa

Having specatularly failed last game and seeing wahoo successfully lock a game up as seer by not posting peeks - I chose not to leave peeks post.

I peeked AofS - because he was UTR first day - I thought this was highly unusual.
I peeked OTI so I could effectively tell him I was seer today without doing so if he was villa. He would then be my most effective defender.
Unfortunately putting 10k of hands a day whilst playing seer villa has failed twice.
Quoted for

a) lol
b) I had this vague notion in my mind that thingy could be a wolf but re-reading this he's uber-villagery. This whole sequence is beautiful. Another thing we should look at is who was posting before it and kind of clammed up during it, since that could be a wolf tell
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02-12-2010 , 12:20 AM
The only thing problematic about thingyman in that exchange, and I guess why I remembered it wolfy, is I don't understand where his "spew me more" comment came from, but hopefully he can clarify that. The post where he says we were joking is villagery though
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02-12-2010 , 12:23 AM
I am confused why did the wolf seer claim wolf so early in the day yesterday. This confusion may be due to me having not read the entire thread I admit.
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02-12-2010 , 12:25 AM
xxsooted, it's a decent question, I think it really boils down to the fact that digger wasn't paying that close of attention to the game, as evidenced by the fact he got caught by my little trap, and so he might have underestimated his chances of being able to argue that his living through the night didn't make him a wolf.
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